Honestly, I don't know what this dress code is. I've never been turned away. You can wear tshirts, jeans, shorts, hats, pretty much whatever. Out of any place I've ever been it has the most lenient dress codes of places that actually have dress codes. You ever been to the voodoo lounge? Much stricter dress code and there's much more if a cultural crowd to.

A 7&7 is actually 7 bucks; its a premium well. I'm a bartender down there on the weekends....hence my stance :)

I guess it is the want to be "seen there thing" but paying ten bucks for a drink is rather steep for me. Put me down on the "not wanting to be seen there" list :)

"Because it's racist." <==== :rolleyes:
-Black people-

Basically you can't dress like some rap-thug you-know-what from what I can tell. That's what the blacks are having a problem with. With that culture comes violence, more police arrests and crime. Can't say I blame the P&L authorities on this, they don't want it becoming the next Westport.

The first time I'd been was when I walked through there a couple of weeks ago at lunch while on Jury duty.

I can't get a non-alcoholic drink at ANY club or restaurant in Los Angeles for $7 dollars or less.

Consider yourselves lucky.

:D

Whatd you think of it?

Looks nice. Nobody was there so, I really have no real opinion.

It has been a while since even black groups have raised hell about the dress code it seems, maybe I am missing something but it just seems to be a non issue these days.

Most the time if I am there it is because I am hired to do photos for one of the establishments...but it doesn't really fail that there are drunk people having fun shoulder to shoulder. The bars to ok for themselves...the fact that they HAVE a photography budget shows that but thats not the only story of the overall health of the district. Like I said it really isn't my scene but I think it has been a huge positive...

I go to lunch in the area often because the studio is about 2 blocks away. Just because some people really hang there because it isn't their cup of tea doesn't make it a failure.

Would anyone really prefer blocks of crumbling old buildings and parking lots to a nice entertainment area and arena? Some of you guys kill me.

I think almost everyone wanted development downtown. The problems from day one were:
The way the development was to be financed and the payback period. Most people didn't believe those were realistic numbers and time line, at guess what those people were right.
The city brought in Cordish, a company that has a history of going over budget and not meeting deadlines on these type of projects. Guess what; they went over budget and didn't meet the promised opening date.
Most people are just upset at the way this has been handled from day one...typical KCMO.

The next big hurdle will be in about two years when the first set of leases come up...how many will renew and how much turnover will happen. This is currently going on at the Legends...many companies couldn't afford to renew leases and there are several available store fronts. In fact the Legends is now repositioning themselves as an outlet shopping area.

Where else are we supposed to score heroin and cheap hookers.

I thought I read something that said P&L got rid of the dress code, at least most of it.

I agree on Voodoo, only time I've ever been there they were turning away about 25% because of improper shoes.

Whitlock will be on it fast...