looking at those stats...I'm going to assume he got injured, correct?

Yeah, though I can't remember what exactly the injury was.

But that's part of the game, and why I say production over time has to be considered when rating players.

yeah but a serious injury back then was almost impossible to bounce back from...

little different these days

I fully understand that.

However, he's a smallish RB that has suffered some minor injuries, and until he can get through a full season and produce at a high level, I simply am not ready to list him at the top.

He has the talent to be there.
I've believed that since the day he was drafted.

But I won't put him there until he actually proves it over the course of a season.

This is how I ranked 'em

1. 1.Chris Johnson
2. 2.Adrian Peterson
3. 3.Ray Rice
4. 4.Maurice Jones-Drew
5. 5.Steven Jackson
6. 6.DeAngelo Williams
7. 7.Frank Gore
8. 8.Ricky Williams
9. 9.Michael Turner
10. 10.Jamaal Charles
11. 11.Cedric Benson
12. 12.Ryan Grant
13. 13.Rashard Mendenhall
14. 14.Jonathan Stewart
15. 15.Knowshon Moreno

Uh idk why the numbers got copied twice.

Yeah that's right, I put Rice down at 3.

JC is going to be a 2nd round steal in a shit ton of FF drafts.

I don't know, but Knowshown Moreno is definitely last until he proves he's worth a shit. I don't think you can put Charles into the Top 5 until he plays a full season. Hell, if he plays like he did at the end of the year he could be #2.

At this point give me Ronnie Brown or Chris Wells over (average-joe) Knowshit.

I am drafting him 1st round, no doubt about it.

Charles is in 9th place for #1 votes.

1. 1.Chris Johnson
2. 2.Adrian Peterson
3. 3.Ray Rice
4. 4.Steven Jackson
5. 5.Jamaal Charles
6. 6.Maurice Jones-Drew
7. 7.DeAngelo Williams
8. 8.Jonathan Stewart
9. 9.Frank Gore
10. 10.Rashard Mendenhall
11. 11.Michael Turner
12. 12.Ryan Grant
13. 13.Cedric Benson
14. 14.Ricky Williams
15. 15.Knowshon Moreno

My rankings

I traded my first round pick in a keeper league for Ray Rice. I now have Rice & Tom Brady and still have another first round pick. Me>>>>> Pioli

Jamaal Charles over Adrian Peterson?

Homer goggles.

The guy's propensity for putting the football on the ground notwithstanding Id take him over Charles any day. All he has to do is go to Tiki Barber's school for holding onto the football and he will be the best back in the league.


How the heck did Ricky Williams make this list? Is there some sort of stat for most joints smoked between downs or something?

Matthews will be a better RB then a 1/4 of that list too.

I'll take Jamaal over AD if Jamaal can duplicate the season he had last year over a full season.