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Hootie 09-16-2010 12:17 PM
the Chiefs should use Jamaal Charles like the Titans use Chris Johnson...

PERIOD.

DeezNutz 09-16-2010 12:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 7010184)
It's a little early to be freaking out about that.
Nope. Every game is crucial, as you know.

The Franchise 09-16-2010 12:18 PM
This "saving Jamaal Charles" bullshit is just that....bullshit.

It's common knowledge that RBs don't survive in this league. All it takes is one freak hit and their done.....so ****ing use them while you can. Give Charles 20 carries a game and let him get those yards.....it's what we're paying him for.

DeezNutz 09-16-2010 12:19 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7010187)
That is a good point, but I also think they are trying to avoid doing to Charles, what Herm did to Lj.

People can rail on Mecca a lot, but he called that at the time, and he was right as rain.

Charles is about 30 lbs. lighter than Lj was.
You don't have to use extremes, though. No one is advocating this. But I'm shocked that there's this much discussion about playing our best players.

Obvious decision is, well, ...

DeezNutz 09-16-2010 12:20 PM
Flowers shouldn't start. I have no ****ing clue why we aren't using him only in nickel packages.

The Bad Guy 09-16-2010 12:20 PM
Yes, Haley has a vendetta over Herman Edwards drafted players.

That's the ticket.

That might be one of the most off-base things Whitlock has ever said.

chiefsnorth 09-16-2010 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CoMoChief (Post 7010160)
Now that he's no longer w/ the Star his words really have no meaning anymore, if they ever did. Regardless his columns in the sports section would make people talk, and that's what he was paid to do. Like what was previously posted, I think a lot of it was that he needed Carl Peterson around to fuel the fire, generally because the whole town was against Carl because he had worn out his welcome here in KC after Marty left. No Carl, No Whitlock at the Star, he's pretty much irrelevant now that he left the Star's sports page. Most people around KC (not counting this site) don't look around on the internet to read his blogs or other publications he may have.
I kind of wonder if Whitlock would not still be a the Star if Peterson still had his job. Whitlock burned bridges with espn, the star, 810, 610, and probably everyone else, but he worked in the star as long as he had his nemesis.

With Carl gone and without a front office that would play petty Tom and Jerry games with the media, he lost his edge.

The Bad Guy 09-16-2010 12:21 PM
Jamaal Charles can not carry the ball 20-25 times a game. He's just not built for that type of abuse.

I'm fine with a 60-40 split of carries because over the long haul, it will save Jamaal.

The Franchise 09-16-2010 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7010187)
That is a good point, but I also think they are trying to avoid doing to Charles, what Herm did to Lj.

People can rail on Mecca a lot, but he called that at the time, and he was right as rain.

Charles is about 30 lbs. lighter than Lj was.
No one is saying that we should give Charles over 400 carries in a season.

You give him 20 carries a game...and that equals out to 320 carries. You could cut that down to 15 a game if you're going to involve him in the passing game more.

He should be out on the field more than Thomas Jones though.

DeezNutz 09-16-2010 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7010210)
Jamaal Charles can not carry the ball 20-25 times a game. He's just not built for that type of abuse.

I'm fine with a 60-40 split of carries because over the long haul, it will save Jamaal.
He needs 20 touches per game.

And if we're already worried about "the long haul" with Charles, it's a pretty safe bet that he won't see this, no matter the bubble we try to place around him.

Turn and burn with RBs. It's not like we can magically stop the clock on the period of time of when he'll be elite, which I think Charles can be.

The Franchise 09-16-2010 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7010210)
Jamaal Charles can not carry the ball 20-25 times a game. He's just not built for that type of abuse.

I'm fine with a 60-40 split of carries because over the long haul, it will save Jamaal.
He averaged 20 carries a game over the last 8 games of the season....and seemed just fine to me.

CaliforniaChief 09-16-2010 12:24 PM
Off to the races we go! A paragraph from Whitlock touches off a 20 page thread.

Hootie 09-16-2010 12:26 PM
that's bullshit about Charles not "being built" a certain way...

HE'S CHRIS JOHNSON

WE HAVE A CHRIS JOHNSON ON OUR TEAM

we should use him as one

DeezNutz 09-16-2010 12:27 PM
He signed a three-year deal in '08, right? If that's the case, I'm completely in favor of using him wisely in '10, and then abusing the shit out of him in '11, and then throwing him away.

I wouldn't give a RB a ridiculously lucrative deal. If we could sign him to a two-year extension after this year, that would be great. If not, toss 'em.

HemiEd 09-16-2010 12:29 PM
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Originally Posted by DeezNutz (Post 7010199)
You don't have to use extremes, though. No one is advocating this. But I'm shocked that there's this much discussion about playing our best players.

Obvious decision is, well, ...
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7010212)
No one is saying that we should give Charles over 400 carries in a season.

You give him 20 carries a game...and that equals out to 320 carries. You could cut that down to 15 a game if you're going to involve him in the passing game more.

He should be out on the field more than Thomas Jones though.
Save Charles (youth/talent) until this team actually has a QB and all the pieces that can succeed.

In the mean time use Thomas Jones like a rental car, as he is about done.

Makes sense to me.


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