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milkman 11-09-2010 01:38 PM

Colt McCoy, a third round rookie QB is throwing to a who's who of scrub receivers, and he has looked better in three starts than Cassel has looked in 30+ starts.

The Franchise 11-09-2010 02:16 PM

Matt Cassel has run out of excuses. He's not a starting QB.

FAX 11-09-2010 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7160819)
Colt McCoy, a third round rookie QB is throwing to a who's who of scrub receivers, and he has looked better in three starts than Cassel has looked in 30+ starts.

That's really the key point, right there ... for us Chiefs fans, I mean.

A combination of homervision, hope, and helplessness are causing people (including me, by the way) to look for the lipstick on Cassel's performances. I was watching Ruthlessburger last night and it struck me that there is a vast difference in things like footwork, throwing mechanics, reads, etc. between Cassel and guys like him. And I absolutely despise Ruthlessburger.

Given that I've grown accustomed to Cassel's delivery and resigned myself to the fact that his relatively slow release is due, in part, to his size, I was kind of stunned watching a big guy like Ruthlessburger who can (when he wants/needs to) get the ball out really, really fast and be extremely accurate (on the quick slant in the face of blitz pressure, for example).

It's sad because I know in my heart of hearts that Haley would like a dependable, consistent quarterback who can develop the passing game on this young team. Surely, he and Weis could draw up some interesting stuff with a guy who can consistently make reads and all the necessary professional throws. I have to believe that Haley dreams of a passing game that can compete with our rushing offense.

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Deberg_1990 11-09-2010 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7160813)
Has anyone watched the Giants?

His receivers have let balls go right through their hands into the DB's hands for interceptions.

They probably have as many, if not more, drops than the Chiefs receivers.

But Eli Manning overcomes the mistakes and continues to make plays and lead that team to wins.

Eli is a Manning, but he ain't Peyton.

He's a good, even very good QB.

But that is the difference between a backup QB (Cassel) and an NFL calibre starting QB.

Just a guess, but Manning probably gets more attempts per game than Cassel does?

There are times i wish the Chiefs would let Cassel attempt more passes. Depends on the game situation....

The Franchise 11-09-2010 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7160887)
Just a guess, but Manning probably gets more attempts pre game than Cassel does?

There are times i wish the Chiefs would let Cassel attempt more passes. Depends on the game situation....

They don't because they know what he is. This gameplan is tailored to make Cassel look decent....and it's not even doing that.

milkman 11-09-2010 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7160887)
Just a guess, but Manning probably gets more attempts per game than Cassel does?

There are times i wish the Chiefs would let Cassel attempt more passes. Depends on the game situation....

E Manning averages roughly 7.5 more attempts per game.

Hammock Parties 11-09-2010 02:33 PM

This hasn't really been discussed enough but consider this:

Both of the Chiefs TD "drives" were aided by the refs.

They gifted us with 40 yards on a bogus pass interference and with a 30-yard field on the bogus fumble.

Basically the only way we were scoring a TD in that game was the refs.

Without a running game Cassel couldn't lead a real drive worth a shit in that game, and he proved it in overtime.

Reerun_KC 11-09-2010 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7160858)
Matt Cassel has run out of excuses. He's not a starting QB.

Agree 100%, Send him packin along with Bowe...

FAX 11-09-2010 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7160908)
This hasn't really been discussed enough but consider this:

Both of the Chiefs TD "drives" were aided by the refs.

They gifted us with 40 yards on a bogus pass interference and with a 30-yard field on the bogus fumble.

Basically the only way we were scoring a TD in that game was the refs.

Without a running game Cassel couldn't lead a real drive worth a shit in that game, and he proved it in overtime.

If you ever took the time to read my fascinating, insightful posts, you would know that it actually has been discussed, Mr. GoghChiefs.

This offense cannot seem to sustain a long drive without help. More often than not, we enter the redzone with assistance from the enemy or the refs or both. I think that's one of the reasons for all the 4th down calls.

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Deberg_1990 11-09-2010 02:43 PM

If you had to choose one QB for a "game winning drive" who would it be?

1. Bono
2. Grbac
3. Cassel

Hammock Parties 11-09-2010 02:46 PM

Grbac: 50 percent chance he wins the game, 50 percent chance he throws the ball in bounds with no timeouts left and 10 seconds on the clock.

Bono: 25 percent chance he wins the game, 50 percent chance he throws four straight incompletions, 25 percent chance he throws an interception.

Cassel: 10 percent chance he wins the game, 90 percent chance the drive stalls around midfield and he throws a Hail Ducky that hits the crossbar.

The Franchise 11-09-2010 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7160928)
Agree 100%, Send him packin along with Bowe...

I'm not like everyone else.....I'm not giving up on Bowe.

Bowe has 4 drops on the year. 4 in ****ing 8 games.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...iving&rank=232

Have they come at the most inopportune times? Yes. But FFS.....look at who is ahead of him on that list.

Sofa King 11-09-2010 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7160953)
I'm not like everyone else.....I'm not giving up on Bowe.

Bowe has 4 drops on the year. 4 in ****ing 8 games.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...iving&rank=232

Have they come at the most inopportune times? Yes. But FFS.....look at who is ahead of him on that list.

i see no reason that bowe needs to be off the team..

this thread really should be the wr's are getting no help due to a shitty ass horrible ****ing QB.

Fish 11-09-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7160953)
I'm not like everyone else.....I'm not giving up on Bowe.

Bowe has 4 drops on the year. 4 in ****ing 8 games.

http://stats.washingtonpost.com/fb/l...iving&rank=232

Have they come at the most inopportune times? Yes. But FFS.....look at who is ahead of him on that list.

Yup.

Check this....

Tell me what the following players all have in common:

Miles Austin
Randy Moss
T.O.
Wes Welker
Andre Johnson
Brandon Marshall
Steve Smith(C)
Reggie Wayne
Mike Williams (Both Sea and TB)

Every one of these players has more drops and less TDs this season than Dwayne Bowe.

Chiefnj2 11-09-2010 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7161016)
Yup.

Check this....

Tell me what the following players all have in common:

Miles Austin
Randy Moss
T.O.
Wes Welker
Andre Johnson
Brandon Marshall
Steve Smith(C)
Reggie Wayne
Mike Williams (Both Sea and TB)

Every one of these players has more drops and less TDs this season than Dwayne Bowe.

All I know is Andre Johnson CAUGHT his game winning TD, and didn't let the ball him in the damn chest and bounce to the turf.


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