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Direckshun 11-14-2010 09:15 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by billay (Post 7172952)
How can Carr be bad when he has no help or a pass rush?
He's guarding WR2s. Those aren't the guys that demand help.

Here's my opinion:

1. Carr. We have a better CB on the team right now anyway in Arenas. Carr has always been the guy you can beat if you key in on him enough. And every time Carr has faced someone of considerable skill (basically a true WR2 or better) he gets destroyed.

2. Belcher. I'm still holding out faith that this was a solid find and a potential starter. But today he got absolutely abused and made a ton of gap-filling errors. That doesn't erase everything he's done to this point, but it does question whether he's got the head on his shoulders to meet the challenge.

3. TJ is a brokedick.

tk13 11-14-2010 09:16 PM
Carr had very little safety help today. And he got burned alive.

Hammock Parties 11-14-2010 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7172962)
He has made plenty of people miss this year.
Disagree. The guy gets one on one with a defender and he goes down.

He can make a cut but he doesn't have the ability to embarrass a guy like elite backs do.

I think he's a valuable No 2 back but he's not anything special at this point in his career.

FAX 11-14-2010 09:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7172955)
... I haven't seen that guy make someone miss or break a tackle all year long. ...
I know you've watched the games, so this doesn't make any sense at all.

Has this loss affected your mind?

FAX

DaneMcCloud 11-14-2010 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Shogun (Post 7172935)
Exactly. I said this in another thread and it got bottom paged so I'll post it here again.

I think everybody got a little win drunk because of the way the season started. I think we have a very young rookie team with a lot of talent, and also some seasoned vets to show the guys whats what. We all got caught up in the winning so it hurts this much to lose, especially when the odds of us making the playoffs were released at 98%. We are in rebuilding mode and we are on the right path to being a good football team. All we can do is go back and fix our mistakes and learn from them. Nothing more can be done. Our coaching staff ( although, confusing sometimes ) know what they are doing, and have all been to the big dance. We are a rebuilding team and we should be happy with anything better than 2-14, 4-12 seasons. We've already gotten 5 wins. We're rebuilding, be patient. I know all of you have been holding out for a winning season but it isn't an overnight thing.
Are you ****ing 10 years old?

Your post reek of naivete.

The Bad Guy 11-14-2010 09:17 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7172973)
Carr had very little safety help today. And he got burned alive.
It was easily his worst game as a Chief. Carr really struggles with guys who can run good routes.

2112 11-14-2010 09:18 PM
Well, look at the bright side, Hamas. you're not thinking of cauterizing your ass hole shut. or dipping your balls in chum and jumping in the shark tank. ROFL That ****ing post still ****ing makes me piss myself!

Anyway, they cant get much worse after today. ;)

Hammock Parties 11-14-2010 09:18 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7172971)
1. Carr. We have a better CB on the team right now anyway in Arenas.
You can't make that sort of judgment until you put Arenas on the island on the outside.

People on this forum are way too hard on Carr. He makes a lot of plays on the ball and last year had a similar stop rate compared to Flowers.

He's not Bartee or even Warfield.

Shogun 11-14-2010 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 7172984)
Are you ****ing 10 years old?

Your post reek of naivete.
Im 11 wanna fight about it

notorious 11-14-2010 09:19 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 7172986)
Carr really struggles with guys who play wide receiver.
FYP

Hammock Parties 11-14-2010 09:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7172980)
I know you've watched the games, so this doesn't make any sense at all.

Has this loss affected your mind?

FAX
Dude, if Thomas Jones had legitimately gotten one on one in the open field with a defender and made him miss, I'd have GIF'D it up.

He's a good running back, he's just not special.

DeezNutz 11-14-2010 09:21 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7172962)
You are crazy. You need to go cool off. He's nowhere near as explosive as Charles, but who is. He has made plenty of people miss this year.
At times, it seems like we've asked Jones to do things he's not capable of. Dude should be moving north-south, not east-west, and too often he's called on to do the latter.

DaneMcCloud 11-14-2010 09:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 7172971)
He's guarding WR2s. Those aren't the guys that demand help.

Here's my opinion:

1. Carr. We have a better CB on the team right now anyway in Arenas. Carr has always been the guy you can beat if you key in on him enough. And every time Carr has faced someone of considerable skill (basically a true WR2 or better) he gets destroyed.

2. Belcher. I'm still holding out faith that this was a solid find and a potential starter. But today he got absolutely abused and made a ton of gap-filling errors. That doesn't erase everything he's done to this point, but it does question whether he's got the head on his shoulders to meet the challenge.

3. TJ is a brokedick.
You and your threads are ****ing reeruned.

Belcher didn't have ANY help up the middle. Ron Edwards, after 7 games, was cooked. Toribio wasn't active. Shaun Smith was exhausted. There's no depth on this defensive line.

TJ is FAR from a brokedick.

And right now, in 2010, Carr is a better option than Arenas, but I guess that's difficult for you to understand.

dirk digler 11-14-2010 09:23 PM
It would just be nice if Carr could get an INT every once in a while as much as everybody throws on him. 25 games started and he just doesn't get INT's

Pioli Zombie 11-14-2010 09:23 PM
But but but but he threw for 450 yards and 4 TDs. (Couldn't resist)
I'm all for just cutting his ass ala Wade Phillips.


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