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JD10367 12-01-2010 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 7215698)
All these stupid, you CAN'T do this you DO NOT draft that. When a player has done X he can't do Z bull shit that they spit is just laughable when you take into consideration that teams, and players hit their strides, surprise people, and do the improbable every year, and you still have the same idiots year after year, spouting off like anyone who disagrees with their stupid ass rules of building a team must be adhered to or the guy making millions of dollars to do it, is an idiot.

Wut?

KCrockaholic 12-01-2010 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 7215698)
All these stupid, you CAN'T do this you DO NOT draft that. When a player has done X he can't do Z bull shit that they spit is just laughable when you take into consideration that teams, and players hit their strides, surprise people, and do the improbable every year, and you still have the same idiots year after year, spouting off like anyone who disagrees with their stupid ass rules of building a team must be adhered to or the guy making millions of dollars to do it, is an idiot.

You can't teach accuracy or arm strength. I've read it here.

beach tribe 12-01-2010 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7215714)
Wut?

It's going to be 20 deg. in RI Saturday night that's Wut.

Dress warm, and don't forget your sock.

HemiEd 12-01-2010 12:25 PM

Well I am not "throwing all in" with Matt Cassel yet, but if he continues to play like he did the last two games, I will be walking around with a big grin on my face.

Not much with the Chiefs would make me happier, than for Cassel to end up being the guy they need.

I have been one of his biggest haters, and was pretty pissed this team drafted in the top 5, 3 consecutive years, without taking a QB.

I was convinced they had blown two years.

Like many others, hoping like hell he would all of a sudden "get it." Hopefully he has.

KCrockaholic 12-01-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7215765)
Well I am not "throwing all in" with Matt Cassel yet, but if he continues to play like he did the last two games, I will be walking around with a big grin on my face.

Not much with the Chiefs would make me happier, than for Cassel to end up being the guy they need.

I have been one of his biggest haters, and was pretty pissed this team drafted in the top 5, 3 consecutive years, without taking a QB.

I was convinced they had blown two years.

Like many others, hoping like hell he would all of a sudden "get it." Hopefully he has.

He's always had the leadership ability. I mean that's all I've heard about, is how he's the first guy in the build during offseason and last guy out, and working with his teammates everyday.

He just needed to get the mental aspect of quarterbacking down. If he continues like this, we could have a great player on our hands.

JD10367 12-01-2010 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe (Post 7215749)
It's going to be 20 deg. in RI Saturday night that's Wut.

Dress warm, and don't forget your sock.

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CoMoChief 12-01-2010 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRock (Post 7215038)
Everyone's quick to credit Weis, and for good reason, but this is the 4th or 5th article that has specifically talked about Haley and the work he's done with Cassel.

Coordinators don't talk with media usually.......Haley does.

beach tribe 12-01-2010 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 7215771)

ROFLROFL
:bravo:

stevieray 12-01-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7215765)
Well I am not "throwing all in" with Matt Cassel yet, but if he continues to play like he did the last two games, I will be walking around with a big grin on my face.

Not much with the Chiefs would make me happier, than for Cassel to end up being the guy they need.

I have been one of his biggest haters, and was pretty pissed this team drafted in the top 5, 3 consecutive years, without taking a QB.

I was convinced they had blown two years.

Like many others, hoping like hell he would all of a sudden "get it." Hopefully he has.

let's be honest..like most honing their craft, it's obvious he's been putting in the time and hard work..that's usually how it works. very, very few are born with complete natural abilites in any field, and even then, they need to work at it.

I think to say he never had the skillset, or has a ceiling is preposterous at this point. We saw flashes of this against Denver last year.

dude has the tools, he just needed the time and guidance.

HemiEd 12-01-2010 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by kcrockaholic4life (Post 7215768)
He's always had the leadership ability. I mean that's all I've heard about, is how he's the first guy in the build during offseason and last guy out, and working with his teammates everyday.

He just needed to get the mental aspect of quarterbacking down. If he continues like this, we could have a great player on our hands.

Yeah, wouldn't that be great!?!

I understand all of those skills and attributes, and the fact that he is a tough son of a gun.

But damn, he just didn't show the pocket presence, accuracy and ability to go to the second read, as late as three weeks ago.

I doubted he would ever overcome that, let alone after one live practice game with Denver.

Good thing I am just a fan, he would have been kicked to the curb half way through last season. :D

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 12-01-2010 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7215765)
Well I am not "throwing all in" with Matt Cassel yet, but if he continues to play like he did the last two games, I will be walking around with a big grin on my face.

Not much with the Chiefs would make me happier, than for Cassel to end up being the guy they need.

I have been one of his biggest haters, and was pretty pissed this team drafted in the top 5, 3 consecutive years, without taking a QB.

I was convinced they had blown two years.

Like many others, hoping like hell he would all of a sudden "get it." Hopefully he has.

I'm finding it odd when ESPN and CBS are both mentioning Matt Cassel and MVP in the same article and it not being "will never qualify for . . . "

That's a very nice but surreal feeling to it.

beach tribe 12-01-2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7215782)
Yeah, wouldn't that be great!?!

I understand all of those skills and attributes, and the fact that he is a tough son of a gun.

But damn, he just didn't show the pocket presence, accuracy and ability to go to the second read, as late as three weeks ago.

I doubted he would ever overcome that, let alone after one live practice game with Denver.

Good thing I am just a fan, he would have been kicked to the curb half way through last season. :D

I know right. That's what I try to get at. None of us can see the future, it's impossible to really know what a player is truly capable of, but some are arrogant enough to act as if they can do just that.
What we can see is that the guy has a Manning like work ethic, and it's starting to turn into results. Cassel knows this offense in, and out. We can't just credit Weis either, Cassel has been waiting for the defense to set, and calling damn near half the plays on the field.
Damn, I hope this isn't a mirage,

philfree 12-01-2010 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 7215780)
let's be honest..like most honing their craft, it's obvious he's been putting in the time and hard work..that's usually how it works. very, very few are born with complete natural abilites in any field, and even then, they need to work at it.

I think to say he never had the skillset, or has a ceiling is preposterous at this point. We saw flashes of this against Denver last year.

dude has the tools, he just needed the time and guidance.

We saw flashes when he played in NE too. It seems that he is in the window of the number starts where QBs start to excel or stay the same. He's starting to excel it appears.


PhilFree:arrow:

Hydrae 12-01-2010 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 7215782)
Yeah, wouldn't that be great!?!

I understand all of those skills and attributes, and the fact that he is a tough son of a gun.

But damn, he just didn't show the pocket presence, accuracy and ability to go to the second read, as late as three weeks ago.

I doubted he would ever overcome that, let alone after one live practice game with Denver.

Good thing I am just a fan, he would have been kicked to the curb half way through last season. :D

As few a two weeks ago I was telling my mom (a Pats fan who loves Cassell) that it is his actions in the pocket that worry me. The slightest pressure and he would get happy feet and thus not throw a very good ball.

This last game against Seattle (big thanks for Grandlama for allowing out of towners like me to see the games!!!!), he looked much better. Almost comfortable in the pocket, stepping up in front of the rush to complete passes, and finally looking like an NFL QB.

Frankie 12-01-2010 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MoreLemonPledge (Post 7215178)
He just needs a face birthmark and the transformation will be complete.

And to get shorter.


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