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Hammock Parties 01-04-2011 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hog Farmer (Post 7319740)
Not hard to bring in talent when you're drafting top 5 every year

Herm only had one top 5 draft.

Royal Fanatic 01-04-2011 08:48 AM

This tells me all I need to know about Herm Edwards:

Year 1: 9-7
Year 2: 4-12
Year 3: 2-14

Not only that, but in the 2-14 season, after every loss he seemed very happy and satisfied in his post-game press conferences. If he had melted down after a loss like Dennis Green or Jim Mora I would have respected him a lot more. At least it would have looked like he cared.

Fish 01-04-2011 09:08 AM

Not surprising seeing the Herm hate stoked in this thread. He never did get a fair shake from the majority of the fans. But the truth is that he supplied this team with today's leaders. He put the young guys out there, knowing they would make rookie mistakes. And now that experience is really paying off. Everyone saying "F Herm" should stop and think about what this team would be like without Charles, Bowe, Flowers, Hali, Carr, etc.

Sweet Daddy Hate 01-04-2011 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7319805)
Not surprising seeing the Herm hate stoked in this thread. He never did get a fair shake from the majority of the fans. But the truth is that he supplied this team with today's leaders. He put the young guys out there, knowing they would make rookie mistakes. And now that experience is really paying off. Everyone saying "F Herm" should stop and think about what this team would be like without Charles, Bowe, Flowers, Hali, Carr, etc.

This.

ChiTown 01-04-2011 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 7319752)
Me. Personally. I've given up on this fight. It just isn't worth it, Mr. Dave Lane.

Often, the myth supersedes all evidence to the contrary.

I once asked who Herm actually "scouted" while he was with the Chiefs in that capacity. After some time (and, no doubt, much googling), Mr. Mecca responded with "Dale Carter". Apparently, Dale Carter was an overlooked player from an unknown school when Herm scouted his ass and gave him a chance in the bigs.

I occasionally worry about the future of our country.

FAX

:LOL:

alpha_omega 01-04-2011 09:17 AM

Whew...sure glad we had Herm. :rolleyes:

milkman 01-04-2011 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Fish (Post 7319805)
Not surprising seeing the Herm hate stoked in this thread. He never did get a fair shake from the majority of the fans. But the truth is that he supplied this team with today's leaders. He put the young guys out there, knowing they would make rookie mistakes. And now that experience is really paying off. Everyone saying "F Herm" should stop and think about what this team would be like without Charles, Bowe, Flowers, Hali, Carr, etc.

I think Herman ****ing Edwards deserves credit for getting Clark Hunt to buy into the idea of rebuilding this team through the draft, a plan I wholeheartedly agree with.

I also agree that he deserves credit for getting those young guys on the field and getting them that experience.

But, at the end of the day, the guy was a mediocre coach who didn't prepare his team, who couldn't coach a pop warner team on game day, and never held anyone accountable.

Had Lamar Hunt actually cared, we might not have ever had to go through the shit we've had to go through over the years.

HemiEd 01-04-2011 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Norman Einstein (Post 7319617)
I think he would be a great stocker at Price Chopper, maybe a grocery bagger.

Toll booth change collector. He clearly has the demeanor for it.

2112 01-04-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7319876)
I think Herman ****ing Edwards deserves credit for getting Clark Hunt to buy into the idea of rebuilding this team through the draft, a plan I wholeheartedly agree with.

I also agree that he deserves credit for getting those young guys on the field and getting them that experience.

But, at the end of the day, the guy was a mediocre coach who didn't prepare his team, who couldn't coach a pop warner team on game day, and never held anyone accountable.

Had Lamar Hunt actually cared, we might not have ever had to go through the shit we've had to go through over the years.

Herm left the Jets in shambles right after he left. as he did with the Chiefs. the man is a douche and a fraud, he shouldn't get any ****ing credit.

On the flip side, Haley has made the Chiefs a respectable organization again. he should get all the credit.

zonachief 01-04-2011 10:28 AM

Wasnt there talk that herm wanted to blow the thing up after his first year? The team was old and needed to be rebuilded but Carl wouldnt let him do it? Not defending Herm as a coach but he inherted an abomantion of a team that was old as ****.

2112 01-04-2011 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by zonachief (Post 7319936)
Wasnt there talk that herm wanted to blow the thing up after his first year? The team was old and needed to be rebuilded but Carl wouldnt let him do it? Not defending Herm as a coach but he inherted an abomantion of a team that was old as ****.

What I dont get is Herm being credited for bringing in talent in the draft. did he really tell Peterson what to do on draft day? was Peterson that dumb too?

Farzin 01-04-2011 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Rool (Post 7319551)
the guy should be hired just to draft, he can do that well. But don't ask him to do anything else.

Strongly agree. He was a scout as a Chief before being the NYJ head coach. I really thought he did a great job of bringing in player. Just couldn't coach them.

OnTheWarpath15 01-04-2011 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 7319942)
What I dont get is Herm being credited for bringing in talent in the draft. did he really tell Peterson what to do on draft day? was Peterson that dumb too?

Peterson always deferred to his coaches regarding the draft.

That's why our drafts sucked so hard while DV was the coach.

milkman 01-04-2011 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by D2112 (Post 7319942)
What I dont get is Herm being credited for bringing in talent in the draft. did he really tell Peterson what to do on draft day? was Peterson that dumb too?

What we heard is that Clark Hunt took the final say in the draft out of Carl's hands and gave Kuharich that responsibility, though no source would confirm this.

milkman 01-04-2011 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Farzin (Post 7319945)
Strongly agree. He was a scout as a Chief before being the NYJ head coach. I really thought he did a great job of bringing in player. Just couldn't coach them.

None of Carl's drafts, including those that involved Herman ****ing Edwards as a scout, wre worth a damn.

That's not to say that we didn't get some good players through the years, but each indivdual overall draft was mediocre, at besst, until the last draft, the one that rumors had Kuharich responsible for.


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