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'Hamas' Jenkins 01-22-2011 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7374800)
jeeezz WTF has Descalso ever done? Especially anything ro get mad about not getting playing time in the big show.

He can hit minor league pitching and play defense. Which is more than you can say for Skip Schumaker.

BigRedChief 01-22-2011 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7375364)
He can hit minor league pitching and play defense. Which is more than you can say for Skip Schumaker.

hey, I'm not defending Skip. I'm as baffled as the rest of us as to why he gets all this leeway. We all assume because Tony likes him, but who knows. I wish they would have made Skip the 4th outfielder at least and got a legit 2B but I'm not the GM...yet.;)

BigRedChief 01-22-2011 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7375359)
I was talking about Daniel Descalso, and Tyler Greene's never really been given a fair shake.

Rarely do MLB players come up from the minors and start games right off the bat and get to play through slumps. Same with Craig. You need to make the most of your oppertunity when it happens and not thinking I'd be doing better if I was a regular starter.

And Greene has been given many starting oppertunitys. He needs to show something this year.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-22-2011 05:40 PM

Actually, most prospects at least get a fair shake and an attempt to prove their muster. Tony's incessant meddling in the lineup causes guys to bounce back and forth between Memphis and never get a rhythm. On top of that, they are never given extended starting play to see if they can get in a groove at the big league level.

Greene had 104 ABs last year between multiple trips up and down and a September callup.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-22-2011 05:43 PM

Some of the people who got more ABs for the Cardinals in 2010:

Randy Winn
Pedro Feliz
Aaron Miles
Nick Stavinoha

Here's the best stat, though. Schumaker was 3rd on the team in ABs.

Pasta Little Brioni 01-22-2011 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7375451)
Some of the people who got more ABs for the Cardinals in 2010:

Randy Winn
Pedro Feliz
Aaron Miles
Nick Stavinoha
Here's the best stat, though. Schumaker was 3rd on the team in ABs.

:Lin:

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-22-2011 05:46 PM

Tony LaRussa is a product of Walt Jocketty and Dave Duncan.

KurtCobain 01-22-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7375453)
Tony LaRussa is a product of Walt Jocketty and Dave Duncan.

Agreed.

BigRedChief 01-22-2011 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7375447)
Greene had 104 ABs last year between multiple trips up and down and a September callup.

I think 104 AB's at the major league club should give you a chance to show your stuff.

BigRedChief 01-22-2011 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7375447)
Tony's incessant meddling in the lineup causes guys to bounce back and forth between Memphis and never get a rhythm.

on this we can agree. His constant tinkering is a detterment, not an addition to production.

'Hamas' Jenkins 01-22-2011 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7375463)
I think 104 AB's at the major league club should give you a chance to show your stuff.

You should know that hitting at the major league level is fine China delicate.

When you are getting 6-7 ABs a week, you can't get into a rhythm. LaRussa never allows his young players 20-30 consecutive ABs to get in a groove at the plate. He's too much of a meddling dickhead.

VAChief 01-22-2011 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 7374825)
noone that posts in this thread likes Skip either.

I like Skip fine as a utility outfielder/infielder option...just not as an everyday starter.

Frazod 01-22-2011 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Coltman (Post 7375139)
is Chiefs Planet so get your stupid St. Louis baseball thread back to St. Louis..........what a joke........

Says the douche who calls himself Coltman.

**** you, idiot. If you don't like it, don't post here. It's really that simple.

BigRedChief 01-22-2011 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 7375527)
I like Skip fine as a utility outfielder/infielder option...just not as an everyday starter.

correct, thats the majority opinion in here. Utility fine and dandy, but we needed a legitamate 2B.

BigRedChief 01-22-2011 07:50 PM

Here's what I heard from my uncle who's friends with a Cardinals minor league coach..... not a lot different from the other rumors out there, but I'd thought I'd share anyway,

All the scuttlebutt among the minor league coaches is that the Cardinals are offering $30 million a year for 7 years or a $300 million lifetime contract that continues on with the Cardinals organization after his playing time is done.


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