WTF?

Winning the division is progress. Massive progress. The Ravens are the 5 seed but should be 3. I guess every game is a measuring stick in a sense, but to say the 2010 Chiefs are frauds if you don't win against what ought to be the 3 seed? When the Ravens have a ton of playoff experience, including playoff-winning experience? When you're coming off like 6 wins over two years combined? That's totally reeruned.

If Ed Reed is healthy all year long and if it doesn't take John Harbaugh/Cam Cameron a million ****ing games to realize that Willis McGahee is garbage and that Ray Rice is a star, they'd be even better, which is tough to imagine for an 11-5 team.

They don't need to win.

They need to prove they belong on the same field.

Making the playoffs is huge, just huge for team development.

The Chiefs are now a more attractive landing spot for free agents, players have bought into the message and you'll see continued improvement based on the people making the football decisions and the coaching.

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In the context of your premise that these Chiefs are frauds, no they don't.

That's an interesting point.

And judging by the look of Arrowhead, I imagine it will help sell the season tickets that will get rabid fans back in the seats. No better advantage for us than to bring Arrowhead back.

I don't usually do this, but.... THIS.

We lost against bad teams over the last three years. Beating bad teams is in itself progress.

Honestly, they don't. 9-7 and out of the playoffs would've been very substantial progress.

You've got a young team with a first time playoff HC, first time playoff starting QB, and god-knows how many never-been-there-'afore players. You've got a handful of imported veterans to say "hey, by the way, the intensity REALLY GOES UP in the playoffs. Be READY!!" But until you live it, you can be down 21-zip and getting hammered before you know it.

The Patriots with many young players and a team that wasn't well in-synch got blown out at home during the playoffs by essentially this same Ravens team.

If you're saying "Frauds in terms of being a real, elite level playoff team" then I guess so, but to essentially argue no progress since 2 win and 4 win teams? It's far too late for that. They proved progress by going 10-6. Soft schedule, but it's the only one they had and they handled it better than the other AFCW teams.

All that said, I expect the Chiefs to get blown out, and I expect them to regress to 8-8 or so next year against a tougher sched but heighten their competitiveness after that, assuming solid drafting etc.

They don't need to prove anything to you or anyone. If they want to show that they have taken a far bigger step forward in 1 year than anyone anywhere imagined, then they have to beat the Ravens.

But if they lose by 100 points on Sunday, they will still have done more than anyone thought would happen this year. They already proved themselves.

This is just stupid.

HOLY SHIT.

What if they beat the Ravens, and then they go to Pittsburgh, and they get their asses handed to them by a team they BEAT last year?

That's not just "not making progress", that's MOVING BACKWARDS!

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LMAO

I think anyone being honest would have to say that Kansas City is a young, ascending team.

They are maddeningly inconsistent-which is typical with young teams. This doesn't make them a fraud.

I don't expect that we will win Sunday; I hope so, but I think we're not quite there yet. I think we'll be better next year, and probably a real honest to god SB contender in January of '13. I expect we will climb into that rare franchise group that's in the hunt every year, like Pittsburgh, New England, Indianapolis, and Green Bay.

What's with the Jet players not on this show?

Nevermind. He just explained it (apparently for the first time). I guess i don't care.