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Dave Lane 04-24-2011 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7587565)
It doesn't matter who you're starting at any other position, if you don't have a QB, then that's always your biggest need.
That.

chiefsnorth 04-24-2011 12:17 PM
Has anyone looked at which of these guys were team captains? Seems they really gravitate toward those guys.

MDHQ 04-24-2011 03:53 PM
Very nice mock

Chiefshrink 04-24-2011 04:12 PM
Pioli is presently debating will it be Pouncey, Carimi or Wisnewski(sp?) IMO. All safe picks.

Chiefshrink 04-24-2011 04:13 PM
No way Jerry drafts a G/C at 9. Besides Jerry is alllllllllllllllllllll about show.

TRR 04-24-2011 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7587565)
It doesn't matter who you're starting at any other position, if you don't have a QB, then that's always your biggest need.

Now, if you want to debate that Cassel is the QB that this team can win with, then that's an entirely different debate, and it's been hashed and rehashed.
And I think anyone that has read my posts/replies understands my thoughts on Cassel...and QB isn't the biggest need.
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milkman 04-24-2011 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by TRR (Post 7588452)
And I think anyone that has read my posts/replies understands my thoughts on Cassel...and QB isn't the biggest need.
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I know how you feel about Cassel.

I don't care.

I am only making the point that QB is the most important position.

Cassel hasn't yet proven either side of the debate right or wrong yet.

From that perspective, QB is still the greatest need.

BossChief 04-24-2011 06:40 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7588562)
I know how you feel about Cassel.

I don't care.

I am only making the point that QB is the most important position.

Cassel hasn't yet proven either side of the debate right or wrong yet.

From that perspective, QB is still the greatest need.
yup

His age just compounds the issue IMO.

crazycoffey 04-24-2011 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7588562)
I know how you feel about Cassel.

I don't care.

I am only making the point that QB is the most important position.

Cassel hasn't yet proven either side of the debate right or wrong yet.

From that perspective, QB is still the greatest need.

it could be argued a WR and OL improvment = cassel improvment

Mr. Laz 04-24-2011 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by sportsshrink (Post 7588387)
Pioli is presently debating will it be Pouncey, Carimi or Wisnewski(sp?) IMO. All safe picks.
you seem to be saying that like it's a bad thing?

well so far the "right 53" and the "safe pick" seems to have turned the Chiefs around in a shorter time than any of us imagined. Some people have done nothing but bitch since day 1 of Pioli's time ... give the guy a chance.

crazycoffey 04-24-2011 07:39 PM
I read that Akeem Ayers is 16 on Mel K's board, many many first round grades from several pundits and I'm reading here that's too high for him? gotta love CP....

Mr. Laz 04-24-2011 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 7588653)
I read that Akeem Ayers is 16 on Mel K's board, many many first round grades from several pundits and I'm reading here that's too high for him? gotta love CP....
like that's a CP thing ... there a million different opinions about 90% of the players in the draft.

RealSNR 04-24-2011 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by CrazyCoffey (Post 7588653)
I read that Akeem Ayers is 16 on Mel K's board, many many first round grades from several pundits and I'm reading here that's too high for him? gotta love CP....
From the footage I've seen, he's slow and isn't really that great of a tackler. Doesn't always get the right edge in run support.

I'm not sure what the "experts" are talking about.

philfree 04-24-2011 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 7588717)
From the footage I've seen, he's slow and isn't really that great of a tackler. Doesn't always get the right edge in run support.

I'm not sure what the "experts" are talking about.
I see it a little differently. To me Ayres does his job very well but he doesn't look flashy doing it. He just does what he's supposed to do and makes it look to easy. Kind of like a studio musician compared to a live entertainer. The studio musician makes better music but the live entertainer makes what he does look harder and cooler.


PhilFree:arrow:

TRR 04-24-2011 09:52 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7588562)
I know how you feel about Cassel.

I don't care.

I am only making the point that QB is the most important position.

Cassel hasn't yet proven either side of the debate right or wrong yet.

From that perspective, QB is still the greatest need.
What exactly would Cassel have to do to "prove" the debate wrong (i.e: That he is the right QB for the job) in your eyes?

I don't want to get into the debate, however I'm wondering what your measuring the debate on....


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