Queue Bonnie Tyler

Same could be said about George Steinbrenner and he was horrible for baseball. I hear all the things about the parity in baseball, but the Yankees have only missed the playoffs once since '96 and in that span have won more World Series than all but a handfull of franchises have done in their whole history.

Jerry Jones has made no secret he wants to bring about a similar inequity for football. He pushed against the league to try to get his own sponsorships. He pushed to get merchandise taken out of a community pool, which is one of the big reasons for the inequities.

These owners didn't make all their money because they aren't competitive. Jerry Jones can afford to sink money into the product because he has a cash cow with his organization. Someone like Jerry Jones wants to make his own rules. Small market vs big market is a problem in every sport. Competitively its not as big a problem in football because any small market team can compete if they don't care about the bottom line for the short term, up to a point. If they can build a brand around their name like the Steelers or the Packers, they can eventually make some money. The question is why should they knock themselves out to break even while Jerry Jones is making hundreds of millions each year?

Cant see it.
Not with the Tie Cats, and Argo's already eating up the biggest slice of the football market in Ontairo already.
Just because you bunch here on the CP don't like the CFL , don't mean it aint HUGE up here in Canuck land.
Moving the Bills into Toronto, would signal a death toll for the team.

Yes there are lots of NFL fans in Canada, but not enough to field a team, at least not until your recession down south gets to the point our Canuck buck is worth twice the amount of a Yankie green back (like yours was to ours 10-15 years ago).

Why else aren't cities like Edmonton, or Vancouver already feilding an NFL team?? TONNS of cash in the oil city, and lord knows Hongcouver is loaded.

Were a HOCKEY first country, with CFL and Baseball covering our sports markets.
We just don't have the markets or population density for it to be a viabale operation.

I mean hell, look on a map, you've got 4 eastern Canadian proviences, who do nothing but host farm teams, for "Upper Canadian" owners.
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The first PRO team of any kind you find in Canada going from east to west is in Quebec, and theres NO provience in better economic shape in Canada right now than Newfoundland. Which only has a total population of 600,000 people.

I think there's more parity in baseball than there is in football. A lot more. How many times have the Steelers, Colts, or Patriots missed the playoffs? And the Yankees have won as many championships as the Patriots have over the past 20 years. The Yankees are a powerhouse, but no moreso than the NFL powerhouses.

If anything, Steinbreinner is one of the few things that kept baseball going. What killed attendance was the player's strike... popularity was artificially spiked by juiced up players hitting exciting home runs, then deflated after the steroid scandal. Like or hate the Yankees, they fill stadiums at away games, and people tune in to root against them.

The Bills in Toronto experiment has been an unmitigated disaster. Fans aren't going to sell out on the CFL, which has one hundred years of tradition, for the worst franchise of the past 10 years.

Rogers Centre is also too small for NFL football. Toronto isn't building a dedicated NFL stadium; Canada doesn't finance new venues the way America does. Most of the cash put up has to be out of the owner's pocket. And the NFL doesn't like doing things that way.

I don't know if the Bills are moving to Canada (IMO, they shouldn't), but they need to move somewhere. The economics of that location isn't going to work anymore.

I'm just telling you what I know from my sources in the NFL. After Los Angeles, Toronto is the market the NFL wants in the most. Buffalo is the likely team due to promixity and stadium issues.

As badly as they want into LA, we should find out whether they want to go to Toronto in about 20 years.

Goayboy has a better chance of nailing a playboy centerfold, than the NFL does of having a team based in Toronto.
Trying to start up the NFL in Canada, would end up with about the same results as Arena league does , and the UFL did compeating against it down south.

I would love to see it, but it aint gonna happen.

The NFL wants to expand into many other countries and dipping its "big toe" in Canada as a first stepping stone would be a somewhat logical step.

I doubt a team in Toronto would fill a stadium with any consistency though.

I posted a link that showed the rough numbers a couple of weeks ago, but I imagine you're too stupid to comprehend those numbers, so I won't waste any time looking for that link.

ROFL translation: "I'm pulling shit out of my ass"

Toronto is so desperate to be New York lite, but they fail miserably at every attempt to Americanize themselves.

The Raptors only have the ticket revenue that they do because MLSE mandates that anyone buying Leafs tickets has to buy at least a half season of Raps stuff.

The Blue Jays haven't drawn well since they won the World Series. The Argos themselves only draw about 25-30K, but that's par for the course in the CFL.

Toronto is a horrid sports town. It's not even that good a hockey town. It's a Leafs town; a second franchise in T.O. would never be more than the Clippers.

The NFL would work for all of one season. Then the 25K hardcore NFL fans in town would be left wondering 'why doesn't anyone go see our shitty team? Oh yeah, because they're the fricking Bills'.

Given the choice between Snyder and Brown who would you choose?

LMAO Good ol' reliable Chiefs Planet...

Um...yeah...

NY(both)are QUITE set for a while.

Heh...