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Bugeater 09-11-2011 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 58kcfan89 (Post 7898051)
For those saying Pioli sucks & whatnot, I think most of this roster is well built, but 2009 Draft Week is killing us right now. Cassel, Jackson & a bunch of nothing. But don't act like Hali, Flowers, Berry, Charles, etc. all of a sudden suck after 1 bad game...

And yes, the DEF looked like shit, but they were put in a bad position because the special teams sucked & offense couldn't move the ball all day. Not to mention they knew they had to play perfect because offense wasn't scoring. Lot of pressure to put on 1 side of the ball.

That said, **** Cassel, and I wouldn't mind tanking this year to get Luck/any franchise QB.
How many of those players did Pioli draft?

milkman 09-11-2011 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7898072)
yup...cassel had plenty of time......to suck ass and embarrass the position
He really did.

He was only legitimately pressured 4 or 5 times today, and the sack he took that put Succop (who isn't getting any better) out of his range might have been more stupid than the sack that broke his rib.

Easy 6 09-11-2011 02:25 PM
HE'S TOUGH!
HE'S A TEAM GUY!
HE'S A HARD WORKER!
HE'S NOT A STARTING QB!

shocked 09-11-2011 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by kcfan82 (Post 7897953)
I'm glad Pioli didn't pick up any top flight free agents, because obviously we didn't need them.
That's not how you build a quality team. How many high priced FAs did Pioli grab in NE? His FA were moderate signings or guys off the scrap heap.

How many does PIT get? Indy?

Gaither, Gregg, and Breston aren't bad moves.

Stop pissing and moaning based on one game.

the Talking Can 09-11-2011 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7898100)
He really did.

He was only legitimately pressured 4 or 5 times today, and the sack he took that put Succop (who isn't getting any better) out of his range might have been more stupid than the sack that broke his rib.
which is really saying something

Oh Snap 09-11-2011 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 7897989)
we're pissing in the wind until we draft and groom a first round QB...nothing else matters
its times like this that makes you wonder how we got as lucky as we did with trent green. He wasnt a real flashy qb, but he was a top 5 quarterback in this league. Damn, I miss those days.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2011 02:27 PM
The hilarious part....our OL pass blocked pretty well.

the Talking Can 09-11-2011 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 7898080)
I absolutely agree. But I don't have enough confidence that the Chiefs can do that.
so even after 30 years of fail, you'd rather they didn't try?


i'll never understand this....people would rather suck with shitty QBs then draft a bust in the 1st round


meanwhile, teams that want to win, draft first round QBs until they get it right

milkman 09-11-2011 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 7898143)
its times like this that makes you wonder how we got as lucky as we did with trent green. He wasnt a real flashy qb, but he was a top 5 quarterback in this league. Damn, I miss those days.
Trent Green put up top 5 numbers, but he was what he was because he had weeks in the pocket with that O-Line.

He was, however, a legitimate NFL Qb, which can not be said about Cassel.

milkman 09-11-2011 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Gif Horse (Post 7898151)
The hilarious part....our OL pass blocked pretty well.
It was abolutely miserable performance by Cassel, and there isn't any excuse for it.

Oh Snap 09-11-2011 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by shocked (Post 7898138)
That's not how you build a quality team. How many high priced FAs did Pioli grab in NE? His FA were moderate signings or guys off the scrap heap.

How many does PIT get? Indy?

Gaither, Gregg, and Breston aren't bad moves.

Stop pissing and moaning based on one game.
Yea, lets continue to do it the herm way....Most of it has to do with the coaching.

Pit was a solid program, and has been for a while, as are both the colts and patriots. They are the clear exception to the norm.

The fact is, we need proven free agents.

If we did it you way during the vermiel years, we would have never landed Roaf, Holmes, Green, etc. We need to be more active during the free agency period than we have been.

Dont get me wrong, the draft is important, but you dont build championship caliber teams solely through the draft.

Fritz88 09-11-2011 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7898182)
It was abolutely miserable performance by Cassel, and there isn't any excuse for it.
Barry Richerdson's farts confused Cassel.

You can't refute that.

kcpasco 09-11-2011 02:34 PM
Cassel needs to be bagging groceries. At this point I wouldn't even call him a legitimate back up.

Hammock Parties 09-11-2011 02:35 PM
After watching today I don't know how Cassel went 27/7 last year.

Weis is a wizard.

milkman 09-11-2011 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Oh Snap (Post 7898199)
Yea, lets continue to do it the herm way....Most of it has to do with the coaching.

Pit was a solid program, and has been for a while, as are both the colts and patriots. They are the clear exception to the norm.

The fact is, we need proven free agents.

If we did it you way during the vermiel years, we would have never landed Roaf, Holmes, Green, etc. We need to be more active during the free agency period than we have been.

Dont get me wrong, the draft is important, but you dont build championship caliber teams solely through the draft.
Go back and look at the SB winners for the last 10 or 15 years.

All of those teams were built through the draft, with very little free agent impact.


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