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keg in kc 09-14-2011 08:51 AM

Nobody loves losing more than Jack Harry. It gives him something to vent his righteous anger on.

BigRichard 09-14-2011 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7907675)
Go look at Green Bay's record each season since McCarthy took over and get back to me on Haley, Jack.

He has the right formula alright, do whatever you want with the rest of the team and get Aaron Rodgers. Then you can win.

milkman 09-14-2011 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 7907608)
You want to know what its going to be a Tough Season? Let me explain.

Cassel - its been swallowed to death.. No need to discuss...

OL/DL - Joke, abortion, invisible, non factors.

LB's - weak at coverage, non factors

Safety's - Karma has caught up to us...

Jamaal likes to fumble - Wait he is a fan favorite cant talk about him - nevermind.

The Chiefs D-Line absolute needs a shit load of help, and the LBs in coverage is a problem, no doubt.

You know how you cover up some of those issues on defense?

You get after the QB.

The Packers aren't wasting the talent of Clay Matthews by dropping him in coverage on almost every play.
They send him after the QB.

Meanwhile, we have a guy with beast written all over him as a pass rusher in Houston, and we send him after the QB on 3 plays.

3 ****ing plays.

That's just assinine.

Then on offense, while the o-Line is not good, they actually did a better job of protecting Cassel than the Pack's O-Line did protecting Rodgers.

The difference that, even in the face of pressure, Rodgers can read defenses and make plays, while Matt Cassel sees pressure where there is none and checks down, and he still can't hit a reciever is stride from 5 ****ing yards away.

You win and lose games with pressure on the QB, and with Qbs that perform under pressure.

We have a passive scheme on defense that allows the QB to stand tall in the pocket, and a QB that is the Duke of Dink.

OnTheWarpath15 09-14-2011 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7907821)
The Chiefs D-Line absolute needs a shit load of help, and the LBs in coverage is a problem, no doubt.

You know how you cover up some of those issues on defense?

You get after the QB.

The Packers aren't wasting the talent of Clay Matthews by dropping him in coverage on almost every play.
They send him after the QB.

Meanwhile, we have a guy with beast written all over him as a pass rusher in Houston, and we send him after the QB on 3 plays.

3 ****ing plays.

That's just assinine.

Then on offense, while the o-Line is not good, they actually did a better job of protecting Cassel than the Pack's O-Line did protecting Rodgers.

The difference that, even in the face of pressure, Rodgers can read defenses and make plays, while Matt Cassel sees pressure where there is none and checks down, and he still can't hit a reciever is stride from 5 ****ing yards away.

You win and lose games with pressure on the QB, and with Qbs that perform under pressure.

We have a passive scheme on defense that allows the QB to stand tall in the pocket, and a QB that is the Duke of Dink.

Nailed it.

Mr. Flopnuts 09-14-2011 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRichard (Post 7907722)
He has the right formula alright, do whatever you want with the rest of the team and get Aaron Rodgers. Then you can win.

Sure. When did Haley hand pick Cassel?

ToxSocks 09-14-2011 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Wazu (Post 7907705)
Did I miss the part of the game where Cassel ran a naked bootleg? That actually doesn't sound like such a bad idea considering the alternatives.

He ran several in the first half.

Pssst....he sucked at that too...

The Franchise 09-14-2011 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7907821)
The Chiefs D-Line absolute needs a shit load of help, and the LBs in coverage is a problem, no doubt.

You know how you cover up some of those issues on defense?

You get after the QB.

The Packers aren't wasting the talent of Clay Matthews by dropping him in coverage on almost every play.
They send him after the QB.

Meanwhile, we have a guy with beast written all over him as a pass rusher in Houston, and we send him after the QB on 3 plays.

3 ****ing plays.

That's just assinine.

Then on offense, while the o-Line is not good, they actually did a better job of protecting Cassel than the Pack's O-Line did protecting Rodgers.

The difference that, even in the face of pressure, Rodgers can read defenses and make plays, while Matt Cassel sees pressure where there is none and checks down, and he still can't hit a reciever is stride from 5 ****ing yards away.

You win and lose games with pressure on the QB, and with Qbs that perform under pressure.

We have a passive scheme on defense that allows the QB to stand tall in the pocket, and a QB that is the Duke of Dink.

100 ****ing times THIS.

Cassel has plenty of time in the pocket.....he just shits himself whenever he sees an opposing player within 5 yards.

And for all of the love that Romeo gets.....the man comes up with some shitty schemes. All he did against the Bills was rush Hali....and guess what the Bills did? They double teamed Hali and gave Fitzpatrick all year to pick us apart.

BigRichard 09-14-2011 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7907843)
Sure. When did Haley hand pick Cassel?

He didn't, at least we don't know that he did. I guess I was just reiterating what Nick Wright had said in his meltdown about the Patriot Way. The Patriot Way is do whatever you want with the rest of the team and get Tom Brady. Just felt it fit that scenario as well.

bobbything 09-14-2011 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Lane (Post 7907603)
Worst QBs in the league dont go to the probowl as a alternate or not.

Yeah that was like so long ago like 5 games ago. It's over, he's the worst QB that ever played. Children please...

I propose we rename the lounge Knee Jerk Reaction Lounge

I said at the end of Cassel's first year that he'll probably end up like Steve Bono. That looks like what's happening here. Decent year in terms of TD vs. INT. 3500+ yards. Bad completion %. Horrible 3rd down conversion %.

Last year Cassel had a decidedly Bono-esque season from 1995. I suspect we're well on our way to seeing a 1996 Bono-like performance.

Can this team win with Steve Cassel? Sure. But I don't see the 1995 defense out there to keep us in the game.

Okie_Apparition 09-14-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefqueen (Post 7907367)
Jack has 5 kids. There is a 16 year gap between kid #2 and #3. His oldest kid is in her mid 40's and his youngest is 19/20 and probably still in college.

We know about Nick AThan & Nick Wright. What about the middle three

Reerun_KC 09-14-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7907821)
The Chiefs D-Line absolute needs a shit load of help, and the LBs in coverage is a problem, no doubt.

You know how you cover up some of those issues on defense?

You get after the QB.

The Packers aren't wasting the talent of Clay Matthews by dropping him in coverage on almost every play.
They send him after the QB.

Meanwhile, we have a guy with beast written all over him as a pass rusher in Houston, and we send him after the QB on 3 plays.

3 ****ing plays.

That's just assinine.

Then on offense, while the o-Line is not good, they actually did a better job of protecting Cassel than the Pack's O-Line did protecting Rodgers.

The difference that, even in the face of pressure, Rodgers can read defenses and make plays, while Matt Cassel sees pressure where there is none and checks down, and he still can't hit a reciever is stride from 5 ****ing yards away.

You win and lose games with pressure on the QB, and with Qbs that perform under pressure.

We have a passive scheme on defense that allows the QB to stand tall in the pocket, and a QB that is the Duke of Dink.

:clap:

Ace Gunner 09-14-2011 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 7907821)
The Chiefs D-Line absolute needs a shit load of help, and the LBs in coverage is a problem, no doubt.

You know how you cover up some of those issues on defense?

You get after the QB.

The Packers aren't wasting the talent of Clay Matthews by dropping him in coverage on almost every play.
They send him after the QB.

Meanwhile, we have a guy with beast written all over him as a pass rusher in Houston, and we send him after the QB on 3 plays.

3 ****ing plays.

That's just assinine.

Then on offense, while the o-Line is not good, they actually did a better job of protecting Cassel than the Pack's O-Line did protecting Rodgers.

The difference that, even in the face of pressure, Rodgers can read defenses and make plays, while Matt Cassel sees pressure where there is none and checks down, and he still can't hit a reciever is stride from 5 ****ing yards away.

You win and lose games with pressure on the QB, and with Qbs that perform under pressure.

We have a passive scheme on defense that allows the QB to stand tall in the pocket, and a QB that is the Duke of Dink.

Mathews is the Packers' 4th man pass rusher. You make it seem as if Houston is the Chiefs' fourth man after the QB when that duty is Tamba's. The DL is not what the Packers have. The Packers team has been together for a long while. They have depth at many positions.

Look, this has got to be said - the Chiefs are in the hole because of the Hunt family. This franchise was neglected over several seasons. It's unfortunate Lamar Hunt didn't have a plan in place or somebody in the Hunt family didn't have a plan to take over president responsibilities.

The whole CP - here too long scenario, the desperate trades and piss poor drafts. Gun, Dicky, Herm. All of that didn't have to happen.

This is on the Hunt family, it's unfortunate because Lamar was an amazing man. But fans simply don't have any compassion for others anymore. They want what they want and if not, on to the next.

This is not Pioli's fault or mess. He's the first man in to start cleaning it up. If you people get rid of Haley, you're pretty much hobbling Pioli's ability to continue cleaning this mess up.

These men got you people a AFCW Title. They are doing you right. Success often comes in biannual waves for NFL teams. It's typical for a team to come off success and fall off for a season, then come back stronger.

BoltWalt 09-14-2011 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jAZ (Post 7907384)
The most interesting part of this post....
"In 11 years of doing this show on 810, I cannot recall, the venom being more potent, than what the callers unleashed Sunday afternoon."
... is his absurd use of commas. Wow.

I went back and rewatched the video commentary and then read the text:

"In 11 years of doing this show on 810, I cannot recall the venom being more potent than what the callers unleashed Sunday afternoon."

I do believe you have embellished the commas.

JohnnyV13 09-14-2011 12:55 PM

That whole Jack's Smack is a complete joke.

Jack Harry is trying to be hip and tough, but just ends up sounding feeble and old.

Chiefnj2 09-14-2011 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefsfootballfan (Post 7908174)

The whole CP - here too long scenario, the desperate trades and piss poor drafts. Gun, Dicky, Herm. All of that didn't have to happen.

This is on the Hunt family, it's unfortunate because Lamar was an amazing man. But fans simply don't have any compassion for others anymore. They want what they want and if not, on to the next.

This is not Pioli's fault or mess. He's the first man in to start cleaning it up. If you people get rid of Haley, you're pretty much hobbling Pioli's ability to continue cleaning this mess up.

These men got you people a AFCW Title. They are doing you right. Success often comes in biannual waves for NFL teams. It's typical for a team to come off success and fall off for a season, then come back stronger.

In today's NFL you can't blame the state of a franchise on people who coached the team 11 years ago, or even 6 years ago.

You are correct that success often comes in every other year cycles. However, the teams that usually end up succeeding after the down year (NO, GB) a have franchise QB.


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