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The Franchise 09-15-2011 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7910829)
If your front 4 isn't generating a pass rush, then isn't it usually a case where the DL is overmatched by the OL?
Of course they're going to be overmatched when you're only sending 4.

ToxSocks 09-15-2011 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 7910839)

They tried to use Piscitelli/O'connell like they were Berry/Moeaki with disastrous effect.
Bingo.

Chiefnj2 09-15-2011 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7910842)
Of course they're going to be overmatched when you're only sending 4.
It isn't an "of course". Plenty of teams rush 4 and generate pressure.

ToxSocks 09-15-2011 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7910835)
No way.

If Buffalo is 4 wide and Berry is out, who do you want covering the 4th receiver? I'm assuming you are using Flowers, Carr and Arenas on 1-3.
Oh, I don't know, maybe Jalil Brown? Someone Qualified for the job maybe? Or better yet, overload the O-line and rush the passer, leave everyone else in a short zone.

The Franchise 09-15-2011 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7910845)
It isn't an "of course". Plenty of teams rush 4 and generate pressure.
In the 3-4?

Kelly Gregg isn't a pass rushing NT......and Tyson Jackson isn't consistent enough.

BigMeatballDave 09-15-2011 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7910802)
I don't want to hear shit about protection issues. Cassel had plenty of time. He just completely shit himself all game long.
This. I'm certain he missed open receivers on several occasions. That 3rd down sack he took in the 1st half he had Urban And Bowe open. **** him!

Old Dog 09-15-2011 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 7910775)
Gaily ran circles around Crennel.
You would think that would have worn him out.

WhiteWhale 09-15-2011 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 7910845)
It isn't an "of course". Plenty of teams rush 4 and generate pressure.
Yeah.

They're called "good defenses".

The blitz is a tool, it's not a lifeline. If you have to rely on the blitz, you don't have a good defense.

BossChief 09-15-2011 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7910752)
Sorry....let me rephrase that.

How long has it been since they've run a ****ing screen play that worked?
For plays like screens and swing passes to be truly effective, you have to be able to stretch the field vertically.

With Matt Cassel at QB, that is probably never gonna happen.

Against our passing game, all teams have to be prepared for is about 15 different types of plays and thats it and all of them can be defended within 15 yards of the LOS.

He absolutely murders this offense.

Sucks because a screen pass is intended to take the pressure off the oline so that the opposing team has to play on their heels, instead of coming right at you....but if you cant benefit from the longer developing pass plays that go for big yardage, screens are easy to see coming and easier to jump.

Just watch, as soon as we make a switch at QB, screens, draws swing passes and other parts of this offense will become effective again.

NJChiefsFan 09-15-2011 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 7910753)
I taped the game too. Unlike you though, I don't think I have the stomach to watch it again. Probably just going to delete it before Sunday's game. :shrug:
Me too. I usually watch the Directv cut-ups 2 or 3 times, even bad losses. This one stings too much though, I don't think I can bring myself to watch it again.

the Talking Can 09-15-2011 02:57 PM
we run a preschool offense because of Cassel....

Dave Lane 09-15-2011 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7910745)
How long has it been since this team ran a ****ing screen play?
God I remember those days.


Everyone screaming wtf are you running a ****ing screen play for! Personally I liked the screen to Kimble Anders.

Hammock Parties 09-15-2011 03:14 PM
McCluster's fumble + Pope's would-be TD was huge.

Could have been 14-13 Chiefs at halftime.

lcarus 09-15-2011 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 7910717)
We should have been blitzing the shit out of Fitzpatrick from the beginning. You destroy his confidence first and then confuse him by dropping people back into coverage.
Yeah when Arrowhead is pumped like that you gotta get after offenses early. Fitzpatrick should have been eating dirt. No killer instinct in our front seven besides Hali.

The Franchise 09-15-2011 03:26 PM
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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 7911171)
Yeah when Arrowhead is pumped like that you gotta get after offenses early. Fitzpatrick should have been eating dirt. No killer instinct in our front seven besides Hali.
It wasn't the killer instinct of our players. It was the fact that Romeo hardly sent anymore than 4 at a time.


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