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tk13 09-18-2011 07:23 PM

I really don't think it was reasonable to suggest Detroit would've traded out of that pick. I think all that other stuff was posturing.

Chief77 09-18-2011 07:23 PM

The question is where does the franchise go from here? There is a young core of good players that are locked up for a while. However,two of those players may never be the same with ACL injuries. The whole copycatting the patriot way seems like a fail. Its one thing to emulate what the pats have done, but Cassel was a bad decision.

Brianfo 09-18-2011 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 7922058)
Is portend a word? I feel dumber after reading your post.

Apologies. I googled it and portend is in deed a word. You are much smarter than me.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-18-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brianfo (Post 7922058)
Is portend a word? I feel dumber after reading your post.

This could be taken two ways...:)

The Bad Guy 09-18-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief77 (Post 7922078)
The question is where does the franchise go from here? There is a young core of good players that are locked up for a while. However,two of those players may never be the same with ACL injuries. The whole copycatting the patriot way seems like a fail. Its one thing to emulate what the pats have done, but Cassel was a bad decision.

This isn't 1990. The odds they'll have a full recovery are somewhere around 95% from what I've read last week.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-18-2011 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 7922077)
I really don't think it was reasonable to suggest Detroit would've traded out of that pick. I think all that other stuff was posturing.

I think they may well have been posturing wrt Curry negotiations, but if faced with the chance to gain an extra second and save $15+ mil, I think they would have seriously considered trading down. We can't really know, though.

BossChief 09-18-2011 07:31 PM

The mistake was not taking a quarterback in the draft.

I swear, if we are in position to draft Luck in April and pass or trade out of the pick, I might have to quit caring.

Titty Meat 09-18-2011 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7922060)
I actually know a number of Lions fans. I used to live around there, and several were apoplectic that they didn't draft Smith or Curry.

Sounds like they have alot in common with our fan base.

oRYMANo 09-18-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho (Post 7922073)
This occurred to me today, also. Our defense is far too passive. We have a pathetic pass rush and it is killing us. You simply cannot give offenses that much time in today's NFL. You cannot do it.

The 3-4 Defense is a giant failure. It's time to go to the 4-3. Hope fully they could at least stop the run with Powe's fat ass in there.

Titty Meat 09-18-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by oRYMANo (Post 7922187)
The 3-4 Defense is a giant failure. It's time to go to the 4-3. Hope fully they could at least stop the run with Powe's fat ass in there.

No.

Deberg_1990 09-18-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7921955)
1) I was willing to grant Haley some slack after the disastrous season opener, but seeing how this team responded, and how it has responded the last four games, he needs to be a dead man walking. The problem with Haley is the problem that happens with any hothead, whether it's Lou Piniella, Bobby Valentine, or Mangino: no one wants to play for, or listen to a prick when they are losing. If he could command respect it's one thing, but being a failed golfer who got into the NFL through daddy connections will kill him in a situation like this. It's the height of irony, really.

Somone refresh my memory about Haley again and how he got hired. Pioli is related to Parcells? Haley and Pioli have both worked for Parcells in the past? Would Haley have gotten hired by another team as a HC eventually?? I dont remember any other teams interested in him besides us.....Haley was the only guy who never came from the Patriots tree, so he was always the "wildcard" in this whole plan.

Rams Fan 09-18-2011 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7922202)
Somone refresh my memory about Haley again and how he got hired. Pioli is related to Parcells? Haley and Pioli have both worked for Parcells in the past? Would Haley have gotten hired by another team as a HC eventually?? I dont remember any other teams interested in him besides us.....Haley was the only guy who never came from the Patriots tree, so he was always the "wildcard" in this whole plan.

Haley might have been hired by another team eventually.

Haley worked under Parcells with the Jets and Cowboys.

Mr. Flopnuts 09-18-2011 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 7922013)
Amazingly enough, I don't get paid for my football decisions, and yet the results would largely be similar to someone making $5 mil a year.

I'll put it in other words. I'll bet you make a fraction of what Pioli does. It doesn't take terribly long to learn what you do, I have a basic understanding of what you do, I've taken a Basic Aviation course, and yet I'd guarantee the gulf in results between me flying and you flying is far beyond that of me picking players and a guy making $5 million.

Think about that for a second.

If you can't see that disconnect, I don't know what to tell you.

Where'd you go, ReeTodd_KC

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-18-2011 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 7922202)
Somone refresh my memory about Haley again and how he got hired. Pioli is related to Parcells? Haley and Pioli have both worked for Parcells in the past? Would Haley have gotten hired by another team as a HC eventually?? I dont remember any other teams interested in him besides us.....Haley was the only guy who never came from the Patriots tree, so he was always the "wildcard" in this whole plan.

Haley probably would have eventually been hired as another team, but I don't think that he would have been hired by a team without tree connections, as I don't think that he has a personality necessary to be a HC for guys making millions.

Titty Meat 09-18-2011 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Flopnuts (Post 7922227)
Where'd you go, ReeTodd_KC

What makes this is even more awesome is you're a mod calling him that LMAO


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