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Willie Lanier 12-08-2011 09:30 AM

This will make the Angels scary for a few years, but wow, they better hope he can sustain some level of productivity. They already have Vernon Wells making 26 mil, not sure when that contract ends, but that's 40 percent of their team salary in two guys... And I think Torri Hunter is around 20 mil as well...

DJ's left nut 12-08-2011 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 8180164)
Pathetic. Like I said in the other thread, he's just another mercenary.

They should have tried to re-up him when he approached them three years ago, but a 9 year deal for a 32 year old player is more than fair.

It's sickening to see someone throw away a legacy for money.

I pointed this out to a friend of mine, but the Cardinals evidently tried several times over the last 3 years to re-sign him and every time he said he wouldn't sign for less than A-Rod got.

Well if you sign him to that deal three years ago, you take an extra $9 million/season and apply it to him. What did Berkman make this year? Exactly - $9 million. Do we make the playoffs, let alone win the WS, without Lance Berkman? No, not even close.

So you can argue that we should've extended him 3 years ago if you'd like, but you have to also recognize that we probably don't win the World Series this year if we did.

The Cardinals did the right thing here, IMO. They extracted maximum value from his prime years and made a damn reasonable offer.

He took the money. They always take the money.

jd1020 12-08-2011 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Willie Lanier (Post 8180186)
This will make the Angels scary for a few years, but wow, they better hope he can sustain some level of productivity. They already have Vernon Wells making 26 mil, not sure when that contract ends, but that's 40 percent of their team salary in two guys... And I think Torri Hunter is around 20 mil as well...

Wells is signed through 2014 at 21mil

This is Hunters final year at 18mil.

luv 12-08-2011 09:33 AM

Didn't he always say how much he liked St. Louis because it was very community-based? Welcome to LA. LMAO

L.A. Chieffan 12-08-2011 09:33 AM

maybe he just thought st louis was a shit town. even winning world series wasnt enough to keep him around that hellhole

L.A. Chieffan 12-08-2011 09:34 AM

no shit frazhole, i just think its funny. he couldve signed with the mariners and i wouldve thought it was funny dumbass

Frazod 12-08-2011 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A.Chieffan (Post 8180199)
maybe he just thought st louis was a shit town. even winning world series wasnt enough to keep him around that hellhole

The first lowlife troll to crawl out of the muck - not surprising that it's you.

Let's see....

1. Angels are not the Dodgers.

2. We got his best years, including two more championships. Two in the last five years.

3. Dodgers suck cock, haven't won anything in decades. Don't see that changing anytime soon.

4. You're still a loser douche.

Have a nice day!

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-08-2011 09:37 AM

I hope he enjoys LA. I also hope that the Cardinals never do anything for him once his career is over. No jersey retirement, no Pujols day, no statue. That's the cost of selling out.

vailpass 12-08-2011 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8180180)
You really can't be mad at him, but I can't get myself to root for his success either.

If the Cardinals were just laundry and a paycheck, then he's just the guy that filled that laundry. When he leaves, he becomes just like every other overpaid superstar that I get a little bit of a kick out of seeing fail.

But the bottom line is the same as it ever was - when they say it's not about the money, it's always about the money.

I don't fault him for it, but I sure hate having it waived out in front of my face like that all the time. Sports get less fun to follow every year.

I see your point. But just because he leaves after fulfilling his contract does that have to mean it was "just laundry and a paycheck"?

DJ's left nut 12-08-2011 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 8180212)
I see your point. But just because he leaves after fulfilling his contract does that have to mean it was "just laundry and a paycheck"?

Not if they offered him the league minimum, no.

But by all accounts the Cardinals offered him a hell of a reasonable deal, one that trumped the Marlins deal anyway. All he did was use that to drive up the Angels.

He took the highest bid and left a city that would've revered the man in his wake. And why? So he can pass $150 million onto his children instead of $120 million.

He'll say it was about respect and wanting to feel appreciated - they always do. But in the end, the man that said he wanted to retire a Cardinal chased the money. He was given a reasonable offer and he still spit on it.

The Cardinals, despite all his words, amounted to little more than laundry and a paycheck. The Angels offered a bigger one, so he took it.

L.A. Chieffan 12-08-2011 09:42 AM

Really the angels arent the dodgers? You figure that out all by yourself there sparky?

jd1020 12-08-2011 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 8180221)
Not if they offered him the league minimum, no.

But by all accounts the Cardinals offered him a hell of a reasonable deal, one that trumped the Marlins deal anyway. All he did was use that to drive up the Angels.

He took the highest bid and left a city that would've revered the man in his wake. And why? So he can pass $150 million onto his children instead of $120 million.

He'll say it was about respect and wanting to feel appreciated - they always do. But in the end, the man that said he wanted to retire a Cardinal chased the money. He was given a reasonable offer and he still spit on it.

The Cardinals, despite all his words, amounted to little more than laundry and a paycheck. The Angels offered a bigger one, so he took it.

The Cardinals offered him 9 years...

"Sources" say the only reason Pujols eliminated the Marlins was because they would not offer a NTC.

DJ's left nut 12-08-2011 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8180224)
The Cardinals offered him 9 years...

"Sources" say the only reason Pujols eliminated the Marlins was because they would not offer a NTC.

The number of years is ultimately trivial except for the fact that it ups the amount of guaranteed dollars.

'Years' has become agent-speak for dollars.

L.A. Chieffan 12-08-2011 09:46 AM

I think pujols was just done being there. Those annoying ass fans finally probably got to him. Even if the cards offered the same amount off money he would've told them **** you

Bewbies 12-08-2011 09:47 AM

The butthurt is strong in here.


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