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SenselessChiefsFan 12-13-2011 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FAX (Post 8198995)
For someone as sensible as yourself, you suppose much and prove little.

FAX
Don't we all?

Direckshun 12-13-2011 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobbie (Post 8199051)
Pioli scared to take risks...

'cause there was NO RISK in DUMPING JASON BABIN for NOTHING and CONVERTING TO A 3-4....

???????????????????????????
God. Shut up.

memyselfI 12-13-2011 08:20 AM
Pioli definitely has issues and I'm giving him next season to see if he can turn it around. Same with Cassel. I do think that once Pioli decided Haley was a mistake he was not going to do much, IF ANYTHING, to change that. Thus, if Pioli hires a known and proven HC and drafts a QB or pays acquires some top free agents you know that he and Hunt may have been in cahoots in seeing that the Haley experiment did not work because they didn't like him. Once he won that playoff game they were stuck with him for another season. I guess time will tell.

FAX 12-13-2011 08:23 AM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8199052)
Don't we all?
Yes. Yes, we do.

But some do it better than others.

FAX

HemiEd 12-13-2011 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8198966)
He openly said he needs to do better.

I think not having a backup QB is on Haley. Palko was clearly his pick at the position and his guy.

I think that Waters being gone is on Haley. If he tells Pioli that he needs Waters, he is still here. The Chiefs were not against the cap. Haley had butted heads with Waters and that is why he is gone.

I think that Gaither starting in San Diego is on Haley. The Chiefs would have been better off putting Albert on the Right side and having Gaither at LT. That is IF the rumors are correct about Gaither refusing to play RT. (Don't think this is true, BTW, but IF true, the CHiefs are STILL better with him at LT and Albert at RT than with Albert at LT and Richardson at RT).

I think that Orton not starting at Chicago is on Haley.

I think that overall, Pioli was working with a petulant child. Toddler Haley was a large part of the problem. The hope was that he would grow into the position. He didn't.
I agree with most of this. All but the moving Albert part. They should have covered that with Gaither before they signed him.

2bikemike 12-13-2011 08:42 AM
There is plenty of blame to go around, and there is a lot of speculation swirling around. But I think Haley did do a good job of coaching up some players and failing on others. Which to me proves the point what works for some doesn't work for others. Haley was unable to adjust.

Weiss was sorely missed this year. He did a much better job of managing Cassel and IMHO play calling. The running off of Weiss is on Haley. There was no effort to replace Weiss with a legitimate OC as Haley thinks he can wear both hats. Clearly he isn't capable of doing that.

Pioli is responsible for aquiring talent. To leave money on the table when there are clearly needs that need to be met is just assinine if you want to contend. We are still dealing with the same holes on the O-line that we have been dealing with since Shields and Roaf got old. We can't develop a decent pass rush with the exception of Hali.

Dexter Manley 12-13-2011 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 8199107)
We can't develop a decent pass rush with the exception of Hali.

... who was already here... as was Jason Babin for minimum wage...

Chiefnj2 12-13-2011 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 2bikemike (Post 8199107)
We can't develop a decent pass rush with the exception of Hali.
Houston hasn't developed by leaps and bounds the last month??

Dexter Manley 12-13-2011 08:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8199057)
God. Shut up.
Uh oh...

um....

Let's see...

TFG originally dissed Pioli years ago for Babin...

But who is Babin?

Check Hebrew surnames...

THAT's why I need to "shut up." Apparently I am not allowed to notice talented Jewish players dumbed by holy Scottie Piolio for nuttin...

Dexter Manley 12-13-2011 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8199121)
Houston hasn't developed by leaps and bounds the last month??
just one toke = 4 games

dallaschiefsfan 12-13-2011 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8198966)
He openly said he needs to do better.

I think not having a backup QB is on Haley. Palko was clearly his pick at the position and his guy.

I think that Waters being gone is on Haley. If he tells Pioli that he needs Waters, he is still here. The Chiefs were not against the cap. Haley had butted heads with Waters and that is why he is gone.

I think that Gaither starting in San Diego is on Haley. The Chiefs would have been better off putting Albert on the Right side and having Gaither at LT. That is IF the rumors are correct about Gaither refusing to play RT. (Don't think this is true, BTW, but IF true, the CHiefs are STILL better with him at LT and Albert at RT than with Albert at LT and Richardson at RT).

I think that Orton not starting at Chicago is on Haley.

I think that overall, Pioli was working with a petulant child. Toddler Haley was a large part of the problem. The hope was that he would grow into the position. He didn't.
So cancer is Haley's fault, too?

You were a Herm-lover. Haley replaced your man-crush coach. All comments and analysis you make have ZERO credibility.

Sofa King 12-13-2011 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8198966)
He openly said he needs to do better.

I think not having a backup QB is on Haley. Palko was clearly his pick at the position and his guy.

I think that Waters being gone is on Haley. If he tells Pioli that he needs Waters, he is still here. The Chiefs were not against the cap. Haley had butted heads with Waters and that is why he is gone.

I think that Gaither starting in San Diego is on Haley. The Chiefs would have been better off putting Albert on the Right side and having Gaither at LT. That is IF the rumors are correct about Gaither refusing to play RT. (Don't think this is true, BTW, but IF true, the CHiefs are STILL better with him at LT and Albert at RT than with Albert at LT and Richardson at RT).

I think that Orton not starting at Chicago is on Haley.

I think that overall, Pioli was working with a petulant child. Toddler Haley was a large part of the problem. The hope was that he would grow into the position. He didn't.
No goddamnit!!! How do you not see how ****ing stupid this is??? Albert > Gaither. You don't move the better player because the shittier one refuses to do his job and play the position you want him to. LT >>>>>> RT

****!

Dartgod 12-13-2011 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan (Post 8199050)
I look at Cassel and can see that he is what Pioli expected. A hard worker who can be good with the right coaching and talent around him. A steady player. A guy to build with... (not build around). A guy that can hold down the position respectably until the right "franchise QB" comes along.
Bullshit. Pioli didn't give Cassel that contract to "hold down the position" until someone better came along. Pioli mistakenly thought he was the guy.

'Hamas' Jenkins 12-13-2011 10:31 AM
Roasted over a Bic lighter.

Start Croyle 12-13-2011 10:33 AM
Another sane and logical viewpoint! This is a good article!


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