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Gonzo 12-25-2011 02:08 PM
Fisher is a huge "Meh" if hired but then again, so is Crennel.
If those are the options, I'd rather have a guy in there that the players are comfortable with. If the options are wide open, well...
I just don't ****ing care anymore. Whoever they hire will probably suck.
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jspchief 12-25-2011 02:12 PM
Can't believe the amount of play Fisher gets around here.

BoneKrusher 12-25-2011 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by jspchief (Post 8236242)
Can't believe the amount of play Fisher gets around here.
i don't see much difference in him and Crennel.

with either or, we would need an awesome OC.

milkman 12-25-2011 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8236259)
i don't see much difference in him and Crennel.

with either or, we would need an awesome OC.
The difference is that the HC dictates offensive philosophy, regardless of which side of the ball is his specialty, and he will bring in an OC that shares his philosophy.

I will look forward with bated breath and unparalleled excitement to the next Jimmy Raye and Paul Hackett if Fisher is hired.

Bane 12-25-2011 02:33 PM
Why don't we just go out and get our own coach and turn him into a Jeff Fisher that doesn't suck?

I see some idiots here still love dumpster diving for other teams left overs.

milkman 12-25-2011 02:33 PM
And don't get me wrong.

Romeo Crennel may well be the same way, but I don't know.

But the thing is, I do know about Fisher.

FloridaMan88 12-25-2011 02:34 PM
The Chiefs need an established/veteran head coach who can stand up to Pioli and be a checks and balances to Pioli's decision making.

And for the pro-Romeo crowd who claim they can't see much of a difference between Romeo and Fisher... I present you the facts:

Jeff Fisher: 142-120, 5-6 in the playoffs and 0-1 in the Super Bowl
Romeo: 25-41 (including 1-1 as Chiefs interim HC), zero playoff or Super Bowl appearances as HC.

Probably the most impressive thing about Fisher is he lasted for 16 years and had a lot of success for a horrible owner like Bud Adams.

Bud Adams makes Clark Hunt look like Mark Cuban.

Easy 6 12-25-2011 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8236262)
The difference is that the HC dictates offensive philosophy, regardless of which side of the ball is his specialty, and he will bring in an OC that shares his philosophy.

I will look forward with bated breath and unparalleled excitement to the next Jimmy Raye and Paul Hackett if Fisher is hired.
Well if ya like those guys, yer gonna LOVE Norm Chow.

milkman 12-25-2011 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8236268)
The Chiefs need an established/veteran head coach who can stand up to Pioli and be a checks and balances to Pioli's decision making.

And for the pro-Romeo crowd who claim they can't see much of a difference between Romeo and Fisher... I present you the facts:

Jeff Fisher: 142-120, 5-6 in the playoffs and 0-1 in the Super Bowl
Romeo: 25-41 (including 1-1 as Chiefs interim HC), zero playoff or Super Bowl appearances as HC.

Probably the most impressive thing about Fisher is he lasted for 16 years and had a lot of success for a horrible owner like Bud Adams.

Bud Adams makes Clark Hunt look like Mark Cuban.
Yeah, 8 and a 1/2 wins a year, and a miracle SB appearence.

Jeff Fisher is the very definition of success.


Or mediocrity.

RNR 12-25-2011 02:38 PM
That would be a great hire...and I hope it does not happen~

FloridaMan88 12-25-2011 02:39 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8236274)
Yeah, 8 and a 1/2 wins a year, and a miracle SB appearence.

Jeff Fisher is the very definition of success.


Or mediocrity.
And how would you define Romeo in Cleveland.

Oh that's right "you don't know" (as you posted earlier).

24-40 in Cleveland.

milkman 12-25-2011 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by KCChiefsfan50/50 (Post 8236276)
And how would you define Romeo in Cleveland.

Oh that's right "you don't know" (as you posted earlier).

24-40 in Cleveland.
What I don't know is whether Crennel learned anything from his experience in Cleveland and can raise his level of ability as a HC with this team.

What I do know about Jeff Fisher is that he was the same mediocre coach after 16 years as he was after his first year.

FloridaMan88 12-25-2011 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 8236226)
QB? Romeo got a pro bowl season out of Derrick ****ing Anderson, nuff said.
Romeo's "Pro Bowl season" with Anderson at QB was a 10-6 season against the same NFC West/last place gift schedule that Todd Haley got a Pro Bowl season out of Cassel with.

milkman 12-25-2011 02:47 PM
And the fact is, I don't want either.

But if you give me a choice, I'll take Crennel, because Jeff Fisher almost certainly assures us that we will be a mediocre team for the next decade or more, while Crennel either proves he learned something and brings more ot the table, or he continues to suck ass, and we then have a shot at moving on in 3 years or less.

At some point they'll get it right hopefully.

With Jeff Fisher, that point is too distant.

FloridaMan88 12-25-2011 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8236278)
What I don't know is whether Crennel learned anything from his experience in Cleveland and can raise his level of ability as a HC with this team.

What I do know about Jeff Fisher is that he was the same mediocre coach after 16 years as he was after his first year.
So basically there is a possibility of Crennel learning and improving from his first head coaching job, but zero possibility of Fisher learning and improving from his first coaching job.

ROFL

You realize you are contradicting yourself in your own argument?

Of course you don't.

You are a dumbshit.


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