Originally Posted by HMc (Post 8292591)

wut?

I've never seen him play, nor met him. Why would I be fan or otherwise?

I'm attempting to analyse the situation using the little evidence we have available (facts).

I would love nothing more than to see this guy come out and make the spot his own in 2012.

But the facts are that Haley elected to play Tyler Palko instead of this guy. Everything else is speculation.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8292589)

I see more people saying "he obviously sucks" and hardly anyone truly wanting to see what he can do. I guess we must be on at two different times.

Also, It isn't "how I want it to be" as you say. People need to stop making assumption is all. We don't know if he truly sucks or if he is truly good.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8292601)

FYP

We all knew that Orton would start as soon as he was healthy. I would have done the same if I was Crennel.

Originally Posted by HMc (Post 8292611)

:facepalm:

And how do you know who makes these decisions?

I suppose you're suggesting that Haley was hamstringing the team deliberately. Again, a fantasy concocted by people with too much time on their hands (even if it might be true).

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8292589)

I see more people saying "he obviously sucks" and hardly anyone truly wanting to see what he can do. I guess we must be on at two different times.

Also, It isn't "how I want it to be" as you say. People need to stop making assumption is all. We don't know if he truly sucks or if he is truly good.

Originally Posted by Guru (Post 8292622)

The guy couldn't cut it in Canada or in some low level league in the USA. What the **** did Haley see in him to make him think he could possibly lead any NFL team. Sorry but I place Palko ALL on Haley.

I'm just saying we don't know if Stanzi sucks or not. Everyone can assume he sucks or can assume he is great. I'm waiting to see what happens with him this year.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8292624)

I'm not sure who's made an assumption here. All I did was pass on some information that I've heard, which might or might not explain why he didn't play during the 2011 regular season. Which is in no way different from you saying something along the lines of "they decided they weren't going to play him at all until 2012". It's just providing a potential explanation for a question that people periodically ask, that being why he didn't play. It does not, however, mean that I'm saying that he sucks or that he'll never be any good, it only means that, if the information is valid (which it may not be...), then he did not develop *in 2011* as they had hoped that he would.

That's all.

And in fact, in the interest of full disclosure, my own secret hope is that the information is wholly incorrect, because I think the NFL as a whole does a tremendous job of ruining quarterbacks by pushing them onto the field too quickly. So I really actually do sincerely hope that they had no intention of ever playing him in 2011, and that in the end they did not have any expectations in terms of development for a 5th round draft pick.

However, that is unfortunately not what I have "heard".

Originally Posted by HMc (Post 8292626)

So what we know is that Stanzi was considered an inferior option to Palko.

Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 8292468)

If this is the case - and it may be - then why wasn't he playing during the season? I can't think of a greater potential opportunity handed to any quarterback. All he had to do was beat out Tyler Palko.

Or were you talking about next preseason rather than last preseason?

Originally Posted by Sanka (Post 8292634)

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8292442)

Well I'm an optimist, so I am gonna go on a little rant here and make a bold statement.

The 2012 offseason will be the best offseason the Chiefs have had under Pioli. This will be the one that permanently makes us contenders for a good couple years. Here is whats going down.

Stanzi will turn out to be the guy. I have been watching alot of his old tape, he has the tools. He's gonna beat out Cassel in a training camp battle.

The 3 ACL guys will come back full strength. By the time the season rolls around they will have had a full year to recover. They will be fine.

The d will get a playmaker back. Pioli will bring in Paul Soliai from Miami to play NT with Poe and Gordon. In the second round of the draft Hightower will fall to us.

The offense, now having their quarterback, gets its playmaker back. We draft Richardson in the first round giving us a great combo of backs. We pick up a RT in the third round. We bring in an all pro in Carl Nicks from New Orleans who can't afford to pay him. We can.

We draft depth on both sides of the ball and bring in some solid backup free agents.

We resign Carr and Bowe.

This young team has it's quarterback and grows together, becoming a power in the AFC.

Sorry if this upsets anyone, but Pioli's finally gonna get it right.

Discuss.