I disagree.

I remember when this place was dogging Vermeil and Herm over the middle of last decade when the blind faithful were singing their praises. Eventually the team deteriorated, and we were on the cutting edge of predicting that.

But now we've taken that skepticism to its illogical extreme. We seem to forget that we had a GM with zero discipline, we lived at or above the cap, and every year we boasted lopsided teams with one side of the ball being completely, miserably awful.

Pioli has built the most evenly balanced team we've had since our last playoff win.

How did that work out then?

Oh yeah. With a playoff win.

He definitely regressed in 2011. Like most of our offense when Charles when down.

That was among the best three draft hauls by a team in 2010.

Hey guys, don't shoot the messenger. I'm just distilling Direckshun's post for the emotional, knee-jerk, me-too-er, blind-haters who refuse to read anything longer or more complicated than a Gates BBQ menu. ;)

mmmmmmm....BBQ.....

LMAO

sorry, your argument about RG3 is pure, old school Chiefsplanet "QBs is risky" talk...save it for someone else, it's nonsense

Haley and Cassel were bad calls, and 100% of the blame for them resides on Pioli...no elaborate rationalizations necessary

Pioli has had two excellent drafts, and received praise for them...where you get the idea that he hasn't I have no idea...I hated a couple of the picks, and have admitted Moeaki was a good pick (even though he's injured), and remain steadfast that McCluster was a terrible pick (#36...lmfao)

last year was one long blow job for Pioli during the whole draft

Pioli has also signed very good contracts, and been praised for it...

so, that you feel as if Pioli is some genious not getting the credit he deserves - and that the Planet isn't worthy of your genious intellect - is only evidence of the fantasy world you've constructed for yourself, Warpaint-style...

I have given Pioli credit for drafting well in 2010 and 2011 (though anybody who would make the McCluster pick is a ****ing moron.) I believe his drafts will always keep us competitive if we ever get a QB. This is a VERY good thing to have in a GM.

I also give him credit for keeping the "rebuild" alive through the cap. I've never really had my period like some posters have over our huge ass amount of cap space.

At the end of last season, I was prepared to forgive the abortion that was the 2009 offseason as long as we kept drafting well, and some QBs were brought in. Most of my bitching this year has to do with the QB position and how it appears Pioli's not going to fix it. I don't think he is. That's terrible GMing.

However, that Babb article was released, and now I'm off the hook. Most of the shit I read about in there is Clark Hunt's fault, but we're not going to change our toxic culture until a shakeup happens at the GM position.

So that's why I'd rather see Pioli gone sooner rather than later, barring we fall ass over teakettle into a legitimate starting QB and start to win playoff games. That's always been my take.

HOLY SHIT! You actually enjoy reading AP? LMAO LMAO LMAO

I was willing to give you some credibility with this post. Now it's all out the window. Congrats, you're a dumbass.

10 and 11 decent drafts .. everything else is a cluster ......

I think Pioli vastly overestimated Haley toeing the line in reference to Cassel and Haley vastly underestimated Pioli's Patriot Way(Cassel or the highway) which makes for a bad chemistry thus the low man on the totem pole always gets nixed.

Pioli has built a very good team.

But he handled the Haley situation very poorly. If its true that he wanted to fire Haley the day after a playoff game shame on him. If its true he sabotaged Haley this year big shame on him. If it's true he went over the line in terms of spying on Haley, micromanaging Haley, overly forcing any coaches on him, and leaking information about Haley to hurt his reputation, that is something gms sholud not do. Given that Haley was hired by one of the best organizations in football, seems pretty clear that teams aren't concerned about Haley's ability to get along with others.

I don't like the Romeo hire and the daboll hire was short sighted. Never did there seem to be an earnest effort to interview outside of the tree. And it seems clear pioli is giving Romeo a lot more license to yap off and to choose his own coaches. Why didn't he give Haley this kind of flexibility?

As for qb... He should have known enough about cassel to not make that move. I'm more upset about his refusal to add quality depth at the position. Palko being the backup is all pioli. Nose tackle. We all know its the most important position on the field. The best we can do is a 1 year almost retired guy and a 6th round pick? The depth issue... I don't mind that the chiefs haven't spent a ton of money. I'm angry pioli ignored getting depth, which is cheap. Again, goes back to gretz's question... Is it true that pioli was purposely short changing Haley so he had an excuse yo fire him?

Basically, he has done a great job but he let his hatred for Haley affect his ability to effectively run the team and I believe his loyalty to cassel and to his tree will also do him in. He needs to stop acting work hos emotions and start acting fully with his brain only.

Chris Rainey for Cheifs 2012!

I read through a lot of this and like other posters here, I find myself craving some BBQ.