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Try this poll on for size: The Titans lure in Manning.... (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=257357)

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Originally Posted by Fritz88 (Post 8457124)

Gimmie Hassellback.

ROFL...

Don't you mean...."Give him the ball and he's gonna score!"

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8457203)

Is anybody in this thread who's shitting on Locker watch him play for the Titans last year?

Curious minds.

Because he looked pretty damn good. He flashed.

Yes I did, really had no other choice living outside of Nashville. :thumb:

He looked good when he was playing, and it was not scrub / clean up time. I am on board picking him up if the price were right, again this is all hypothetical.

Why would we pay a premium for what is essentially a rookie QB? If the Titans have a QB glut they should be discounting their overstock. If he was worth a first-rounder last year, he's worth a first-rounder this year minus whatever we talk them down because they wasted a first-rounder on a benchwarmer.

Didn't Locker put up some of if not THE best stats out of all the rookie QBs in the preseason last year (including Cam)? I could be wrong, but I swear I read an article somewhere that compared all rookie QB's preseason performance and he had the most impressive stats.

From what little I saw of him last year (watched a little Titans last year, had Damian Williams starting on my FF team a couple weeks), he appeared to have potential.

They say they want to keep him, and Manning will be a 2 or 3 year thing, but Lockers contract is 3 more years.

Manning's neck is bolted on and the nerve in his throwing arm has duct tape on it

they'd be crazy to get rid of locker

Preseason Stats from Rookies Last Year

Cam Newton [#1 overall]:: 24-57 (42.1%) (12th), 300 yards (7th), 5.3 YPA (10th), 1 TD (T-3rd), 0 INT (T-1st), 64.9 Rating (7th)

Jake Locker [#8 overall]: 32-49 (65.3%) (1st), 316 yards (6th), 6.4 YPA (4th), 2 TDs (T-1st), 1 INT (T-4th), 88.5 Rating (1st)

Blaine Gabbert [#10 overall]: 35-70 (50.0%) (9th), 365 yards (2nd), 5.2 YPA (11th), 1 TD (T-3rd), 1 INT (T-4th), 64.3 Rating (8th)

Christian Ponder [#12 overall]: 27-49 (55.1%) (7th), 290 yards (8th), 5.9 YPA (6th), 1 TD (T-3rd), 0 INT (T-1st), 79.5 Rating (3rd)

Andy Dalton [#35 overall]: 36-60 (60.0%) (4th), 328 yards (5th), 5.5 YPA (9th), 1 TD (T-3rd), 3 INT (T-10th), 59.6 Rating (10th)

Colin Kaepernick [#36 overall]: 24-50 (48.0%) (11th), 257 yards (9th), 5.1 YPA (12th), 0 TD (T-10th), 5 INT (12th), 23.9 Rating (12th)

Ryan Mallett [#74 overall]: 36-63 (57.1%) (5th), 357 yards (3rd), 5.7 YPA (7th), 1 TD (T-3rd), 1 INT (T-4th), 72.0 Rating (4th)

Ricky Stanzi [#135 overall]: 18-34 (52.9%) (8th), 213 yards (10th), 6.3 YPA (5th), 1 TD (T-3rd), 1 INT (T-4th), 69.9 Rating (5th)

T.J. Yates [#152 overall]: 13-26 (50.0%) (10th), 181 yards (11th), 7.0 YPA (2nd), 0 TD (T-10th), 1 INT (T-4th), 56.7 Rating (11th)

Nathan Enderle [#160 overall]: 13-23 (56.5%) (6th), 177 yards (12th), 7.7 YPA (1st), 0 TD T-10th), 1 INT (T-4th), 63.1 Rating (9th)

Tyrod Taylor [#180 overall]: 37-60 (61.7%) (2nd), 408 yards (1st), 6.8 YPA (3rd), 1 TD (T-3rd), 3 INTs (T-10th), 66.5 Rating (6th)

Greg McElroy [#208 overall]: 36-59 (61.0%) (3rd), 335 yards (4th), 5.7 YPA (8th), 2 TDs (T-1st), 0 INT (T-1st), 87.9 Rating (2nd)

Obviously the preseason didn't foreshadow things correctly for some of these guys (I think it's fair to assume that in this draft class, when all is said and done, Cam Newton will be ranked higher than #7 and Dalton higher than #10). But this doesn't hurt the case for Locker. On the other hand though, Ryan Leaf had a relatively decent preseason his rookie year, not to mention, Locker only scored a 20 on his Wonderlic. Lol, how on earth did Akili Smith score a 9 on that thing?

I'd love to have Locker, but I think he could come cheaper than 3 picks.

I think he could be had for a second rounder and a third rounder. The Titans will have Payton manning, and Locker isn't going to want to ride the bench for years.

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Originally Posted by the Talking Can (Post 8457308)

Manning's neck is bolted on and the nerve in his throwing arm has duct tape on it

they'd be crazy to get rid of locker

Yeah, I don't see them moving him at all.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8457099)

I don't know... you're asking for a guy the Titans invested with a Top 10 pick, then looked pretty damn good in limited time. Plus he's gotten Hasselbeck training directly for the past year. It's going to be a little painful to get him.

He's going to require a cost.

I'm thinking something like this might get the deal done:

This year's 2nd.
2013's 2nd.
conditional pick in 2013:
-- If he doesn't suit up in 2012, it's a 5th.
-- If he starts at least two games, it's a 4th.
-- If he starts at least eight games, it's a 3rd.
-- If he starts every game, OR throws for 3,500 yards, OR the team wins nine games with him under center, it's a 1st.

Make the bolded part ten games, and I would be on board. Ten games would mean a division title in all likely hood (nine probably would, but if PM winds up in Denver, figure a extra win or two will be needed.)

Actually, the number wins would not really matter...if the team got nine wins, odds are he would have thrown for 3500 or started every game, so the escalator would have kicked in.

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 8457098)

Flopnuts just JIHP.

**** yes I did. I took a little abuse the year him and Gabbert came out, but I believed and still do that Locker will be elite in the NFL. We'd be privileged to get him and I'd give up a 1St and a 2md easily. Maybe more. I believe in the kid. Doesn't hurt he's a Husky :D

They have. He's going with the Titans.

I'd rather not give up the picks and take a risk on Flynn.

Shit the only thing we do right once in a while is draft.