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i'm all for taking a WR or RB in later rounds

Moss is big and fast, I really like that.

I like T.Y though in that he can help the return game as well as be a blazer slot guy.

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Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 8545243)

I am willing to bet something severe on my signature, like a one-year ownership of it, that this team will not take David DeCastro at any point in the 2012 NFL Draft.

Okay. I'll bite. After taking a first team All-American guard in 2010 in the third round (Asamoah) and a first team All-American guard in 2011 in the second round (Hudson), you are probably not going out on a limb too much by saying that they are not going to burn a first rounder on yet another first team All-American guard in 2012. And with both Harris and Lilja on the roster, the DeCastro pick is a tad bit redundant, don't you think?

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Although I really believe, following this front office as closely as I've tried to, that Mark Barron and Michael Brockers are both everything this front office loves in a prospect. The safety position is very thin now, and the DE position will be thin next year, assuming Brandon Bair doesn't blow up.

Barron has had two relatively important surgeries (torn pec and double hernia) as well as an arrest on his record. He is not what they are looking for after drafting Lewis in 2010 and Berry in 2011, nor what Pioli loves in a prospect.

Brockers is what he loves though.

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It doesn't take a lot to see that they are really intrigued by Tannehill.

I think it was a cursory look and nothing more. You have to make sure that you do your homework on players.

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And they no doubt love Riley Reiff, but of course we have no need for him.

There is more of a need for an offensive tackle on this team than there is a defensive end. What happens if either Albert or Winston gets injured? Who's the depth at that position? What happens if Albert decides to go the free agent route after next year? At least at defensive end, we have Bailey and Bair. There is no one on the roster behind the starters at offensive tackle.

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Another dark horse, considering these factors: the Chiefs still lack a deep threat to stretch defenses, and Baldwin's shown flashes, but only flashes, at this point is still a bit unreliable.

Kendall Wright...

Not a snowballs chance in hell.

There were rumors that the Chiefs really wanted Nate Solder last year. I think that they take a hard look at the position again.

In my personal opinion, this is what the Chiefs "big board" looks like:

1. Melvin Ingram, LB/DE/DT; South Carolina
- Originally was an ILB for the Gamecocks, but was used at every position along the defensive front seven. His versatility and athleticism is almost unmatched in this draft.

2. Riley Reiff, OT; Iowa
- I'm not completely sold on him, but we've drafted Hawkeye's in both of the past two drafts. Very solid technician who could play four positions on the line.

3. Michael Brockers, DT; LSU
- Absolute prototype for the 34 DE spot and perfect nose for the passing downs. SEC.

4. Dre Kirkpatrick, CB; Alabama
- Junior, but three year starter. Long and athletic. Could also play third safety in passing downs that Crennel likes to run.

5. Jon Martin, OT; Stanford
- I like better than Reiff due to his better usable strength and length.

I don't think I'd not take a DE because of Bair. I think we look at one somewhere in this draft.

I really don't know who's at the top of the board. You can build up depth and one spot or another.

the chiefs have been looking for a mid-round tackle for a couple of years...we've had teams trade up over us to draft tackles each of the last two years, i think...

Baltimore (?) jumped us in the 3rd for a guy from South Florida

I just don't think they will draft OL in the first this year..

I think we probably go after OL pretty heavy in the middle of this draft.

ROFL @ sac still calling for ot

I wonder if Massie is still on the board at #44 if we may not consider him? Most likely he will be gone, but I have seen a few mocks where he is right in that range.

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Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 8545748)

ROFL @ sac still calling for ot

Laugh all you want.

Who's the third tackle on this team?

Who's playing either tackle spot if Albert or Winston get injured?

Who's in the fold if someone gives Albert a Carr like contract, we let him go or he just walks after the 2012 season?

People seem to be fine mentioning OLB, ILB, DE, NT guys (e.g., Ingram/Mercilus; Kuechly/Hightower; Brockers/Still; Poe/Ta'amu respectively) for that first pick, but we have some depth at those positions, but it's not okay for OT? K. Shit...people around here want DeCastro, and we are freaking loaded at guard. Four deep with all of them being solid players.

How are you on DeCastro, btw? I think I'll go search around and see if you've advocated him in this draft. With Hudson, Asamoah, Lilja and Harris on the roster, I'd like to see who is wanting DeCastro with the #11 pick. Let's find out who the truly ****ing stupid people are around here.

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Originally Posted by Coogs (Post 8545752)

I wonder if Massie is still on the board at #44 if we may not consider him? Most likely he will be gone, but I have seen a few mocks where he is right in that range.

Massie isn't very good. He's a pure right tackle that simply has relied on his size/strength to this point. He's technically/fundamentally flawed on most of his game. Major project that might never get it.

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 8545267)

I do like Wright, but again, I think there are guys later that can do the same thing he does.

One of the two slot guys from Arkansas come to mind. Ty Hilton, etc.

This is the craziest spot I remember the Chiefs being in, with regards to a first round pick.

Not really too different from '09 when we took Tyson Jackson at #3. Our needs didn't match the value of the #3, and there wasn't much talent at the top of that draft anywhere else.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8545765)

All the things you say here apply even moreso to ILB, QB, S, or OLB.

One injury and we're ****ed at those positions.

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Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 8545765)

ROFL so we should take reef or Martin?

Hmog

ILB, OLB, S, OL are the areas I expect us to really focus on in this draft. DL maybe too.