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JD10367 07-08-2012 08:01 PM
Last March, this was ESPN's list of Top Ten Receivers:

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans
2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons
4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions
5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers
7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos
10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

Only half (five out of ten) made the playoffs.

None even made the conference championship games, let alone the Super Bowl.

OnTheWarpath15 07-08-2012 08:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8726462)
As I said earlier, the only player you overpay to keep is a franchise QB.

You pay Bowe what he's worth, but no way you should overpay him.

WRs are not going to win you SBs.

We aren't going to win a SB with Matt Cassel and Dwayne Bowe.

We could win a SB with a franchise QB and some other team's retread WR.
Well, we're not going to win a SB with Matt Cassel, period.

So using that logic, we shouldn't be paying anyone.

Personally, I don't think $10-12M a year average is overpaying him.

Especially when you consider what we're paying (and have paid) Cassel, Dorsey and Jackson.

qabbaan 07-08-2012 08:01 PM
They aren't serious about re-signing Bowe. If they were, the time to do it was last year. Pioli isn't stupid. They simply seem to feel he is expendable.

KCrockaholic 07-08-2012 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8726470)
Last March, this was ESPN's list of Top Ten Receivers:

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans
2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons
4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions
5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers
7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos
10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

Only half (five out of ten) made the playoffs.

None even made the conference championship games, let alone the Super Bowl.
I have a feeling you're insinuating that you don't need an elite receiver to make the playoffs/win championships.

BigMeatballDave 07-08-2012 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8726470)
Last March, this was ESPN's list of Top Ten Receivers:

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans
2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons
4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions
5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers
7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos
10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

Only half (five out of ten) made the playoffs.

None even made the conference championship games, let alone the Super Bowl.
Huh? CJ should be #1, and definitely NOT below White. LOL

ShowtimeSBMVP 07-08-2012 08:03 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8726473)
They aren't serious about re-signing Bowe. If they were, the time to do it was last year. Pioli isn't stupid. They simply seem to feel he is expendable.
Maybe Pioli should re-watch the 2nd half of the Denver game without Bowe.

OnTheWarpath15 07-08-2012 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8726473)
They aren't serious about re-signing Bowe. If they were, the time to do it was last year. Pioli isn't stupid. They simply seem to feel he is expendable.
Sadly, I tend to agree with this.

milkman 07-08-2012 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58 (Post 8726472)
Well, we're not going to win a SB with Matt Cassel, period.

So using that logic, we shouldn't be paying anyone.

Personally, I don't think $10-12M a year average is overpaying him.

Especially when you consider what we're paying (and have paid) Cassel, Dorsey and Jackson.
I disagree that 10-12 mil a year is overpaying.

I'd give him 9-10, but not up to 12.

And justifying overpaying him because we are overpaying Cassel and Jackson isn't really justification.

If you do 1 or 2 stupid things, does that justify doing another stupid thing?

the Talking Can 07-08-2012 08:04 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 8726470)
Last March, this was ESPN's list of Top Ten Receivers:

1. Andre Johnson, Houston Texans
2. Larry Fitzgerald, Arizona Cardinals
3. Roddy White, Atlanta Falcons
4. Calvin Johnson, Detroit Lions
5. Reggie Wayne, Indianapolis Colts
6. Greg Jennings, Green Bay Packers
7. Dwayne Bowe, Kansas City Chiefs
8. DeSean Jackson, Philadelphia Eagles
9. Brandon Lloyd, Denver Broncos
10. Brandon Marshall, Miami Dolphins

Only half (five out of ten) made the playoffs.

None even made the conference championship games, let alone the Super Bowl.
which doesn't actually mean anything...

so what's your point, that every player on those teams that didn't make the superbowl is non-essential, or just WRs for some random reason?

O.city 07-08-2012 08:04 PM
Wouldn't be surprised at all to see 2 of those wrs in the SB this year.



I'm calling it here. Lions vs. Texans SB.

milkman 07-08-2012 08:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by qabbaan (Post 8726473)
They aren't serious about re-signing Bowe. If they were, the time to do it was last year. Pioli isn't stupid. They simply seem to feel he is expendable.
That's pure speculation.

OnTheWarpath15 07-08-2012 08:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8726480)
I disagree that 10-12 mil a year is overpaying.

I'd give him 9-10, but not up to 12.

And justifying overpaying him because we are overpaying Cassel and Jackson isn't really justification.

If you do 1 or 2 stupid things, does that justify doing another stupid thing?

His play on the field justifies that level of pay.

Cassel and Jackson are just examples of where this organization is wasting money that could go to a deserving player.

BigMeatballDave 07-08-2012 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8726484)
That's pure speculation.
If Baldwin lights it up this season, this could very well be the case.

okcchief 07-08-2012 08:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8726477)
Huh? CJ should be #1, and definitely NOT below White. LOL
Andre, Calvin and Larry you could interchange, but no way Roddy White is better. No team would take White over CJ.

El Jefe 07-08-2012 08:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Munson (Post 8726418)
No way in hell. He's not worth anywhere near $100 million.
This


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