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Phobia 07-24-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 8765824)
From what I understand, JoPo was given a $750k advance to write a book. The publisher estimates how much they'll receive in royalties for the sale of the book and gives the writer an advance based on those estimated sales.

Generally, there will be two advances given: One at the beginning and one upon completion. But I'm sure that he received the contractually obligated advance in full.

I don't see any logical reason as to why Joe Paterno would receive a share of Posnanski's writer royalties or his advance. If Paterno agreed to an authorized autobiography with said publisher, he would be given his own advance, as the book would be a collaborative effort. But even under those terms, he would not see any of Joe's money and it's likely that his share would be different (subject versus writer).

Very well. I don't know anything about how that works. Good for him. He deserves everything he gets. He's one of my favorite writers.

wazu 07-24-2012 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8765797)
Posnanski is a great writer but I hope he doesn't forever tarnish himself with this book. I know it's difficult to say anything negative when he's probably spent as much time with the Paterno family as anyone, but I have a feeling the book is going to glaze over all this horror. That's not going to look good.

He is responsible for himself. It's a defining moment for him. I hope he does it right, but if he doesn't, then that's just who he really is.

wazu 07-24-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8765826)
Pos is way too smart to leave that part hanging. He will work magic with his words and tie it all up with a pretty bow, just like he has always done...

This is what I expect as well. Could end up being Posnanski's finest hour.

DaneMcCloud 07-24-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8765828)
Very well. I don't know anything about how that works. Good for him. He deserves everything he gets. He's one of my favorite writers.

I updated my post because I re-read the article just after posting. He was paid $750k for the book and unless it was a collaborative, autobiographical book with Paterno receiving writing credit, I'm pretty sure that all that dough went to JoPo.

And I agree: He's worth every penny. I hope this doesn't cause any harm to his name.

BigRedChief 07-24-2012 11:29 PM

Joe was going to publish this book without a single word about the accusations against Sandusky. Joe Paternos comment on those accusations? No comment on those accusations?

No ****ing way Poz didnt hear the rumors, given documents that detailed the police blotter on Sandusky. He's a smart dude, he put it together. Maybe he decided to just focus on the football career. The child molestation had nothing to do with Paterno. Whatever.

Poz needs to adress the issue better than he has or his reputation will be permantently damaged.

wazu 07-24-2012 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8765845)
Joe was going to publish this book without a single word about the accusations against Sandusky. Joe Paternos comment on those accusations? No comment on those accusations?

No ****ing way Poz didnt hear the rumors, given documents that detailed the police blotter on Sandusky. He's a smart dude, he put it together. Maybe he decided to just focus on the football career. The child molestation had nothing to do with Paterno. Whatever.

Poz needs to adress the issue better than he has or his reputation will be permantently damaged.

Maybe pos was a conspirator. Please investigate and let us know.

BigRedChief 07-24-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 8765848)
Maybe pos was a conspirator. Please investigate and let us know.

If he knew someone had evidence or he believed that there was evidence that would stand up in court of child molestation, he would be a potential co-conspirator in the eyes of the law.

FTR, I love Poz, he's the best sports writer on the planet today.

Phobia 07-24-2012 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 8765845)
Joe was going to publish this book without a single word about the accusations against Sandusky. Joe Paternos comment on those accusations? No comment on those accusations?

No ****ing way Poz didnt hear the rumors, given documents that detailed the police blotter on Sandusky. He's a smart dude, he put it together. Maybe he decided to just focus on the football career. The child molestation had nothing to do with Paterno. Whatever.

Poz needs to adress the issue better than he has or his reputation will be permantently damaged.

He will. He's truly brilliant. I've had drinks with Joe, Teischer, and Liz Merrill. Adam was obnoxious which I can appreciate, Liz was quietly witty which I anticipated, and Joe was just overwhelmingly brilliant even though I had no idea what to expect from him.

BigRedChief 07-24-2012 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8765854)
He will. He's truly brilliant. I've had drinks with Joe, Teischer, and Liz Merrill. Adam was obnoxious which I can appreciate, Liz was quietly witty which I anticipated, and Joe was just overwhelmingly brilliant even though I had no idea what to expect from him.

I met Teisher a few times, he came off as an arrogant know it all. Never met Liz. Met Poz twice. Both times I thought it was the coolest thing. He is defintely a very smart guy. Could have been successful in any field he chose kind of smart.

suzzer99 07-24-2012 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 8765797)
Posnanski is a great writer but I hope he doesn't forever tarnish himself with this book. I know it's difficult to say anything negative when he's probably spent as much time with the Paterno family as anyone, but I have a feeling the book is going to glaze over all this horror. That's not going to look good.

this exactly

suzzer99 07-24-2012 11:45 PM

Let's all remember some of JoePos' finest moments, before this scandal takes his career down as well: http://joeposnanski.blogspot.com/201...ob-costas.html

Dylan 07-25-2012 01:06 AM

"The one thing that Joe Paterno stood for was making an impact, an impact on people's lives, an impact on a community, on a college. That's what's most significant about him… the questions people have about Joe Paterno, what he did or didn't do, you weigh that against the impact that he made and hopefully people read the book and have a real view of that life."


According to The New York Times, those quotes about Paterno making an impact on people's lives is about a man who "failed to protect against a child sexual predator harming children for over a decade" according to the Freeh report.

Actually, subsequent investigation by the Freeh report make it impossible for Posnanski to tell the true story. It was a mistake to move the publishing date up almost a full year. The book has been published - and according to the Freeh report Posnanski's biography on Paterno, unfortunately went from non-fiction to fiction.

Chicago sports writer Ed Sherman latest on why Sports Illustrated pass to run excerpts from Pasnanski's Paterno book.

http://www.shermanreport.com/?p=3522


Joe Posnanski's article in Sports Illustrated caused quite a stir among his peers:

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...rno/index.html


http://www.thefreehreportonpsu.com/R...NAL_071212.pdf

FYI: Posnanski is leaving/or left SI for a job in the USA Today Sports Media Group.

BigRock 07-25-2012 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8765745)
I'd imagine that any one of us who spent a great deal of time with the Paterno family and were not privy to the information just released would have also been an apologist.

Given the amount of scorn and ridicule he's taken over the last nine months for his apologist stance, I can only assume that's not an opinion held by most.

Dave Lane 07-25-2012 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 8763822)
I'm tired of hearing about this shit everyday. Yeah he kept his mouth closed with Sandusky was banging kids. He's in prison and Paterno is dead, move the **** on.

No shit where is all this hate for priests and other pedos? This has been the biggest witch hunt I've witnessed in my life. He believed his friend. He was old and made a mistake in not seeking more help from authorities. Enough already.

Rausch 07-25-2012 04:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Phobia (Post 8765854)
He will. He's truly brilliant. I've had drinks with Joe, Teischer, and Liz Merrill. Adam was obnoxious which I can appreciate, Liz was quietly witty which I anticipated, and Joe was just overwhelmingly brilliant even though I had no idea what to expect from him.

People slam JoPo because he's a homer.

True, but he's just a guy that loves sports and writes from the heart. He's a driven writer that has to find that story but that GOOD story.

It almost seems like his articles are written to Springsteen songs...


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