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ghak99 08-17-2012 01:53 PM
:eek:.... :facepalm:

I'm not sure what I was expecting to see in the video, but that wasn't it!

I must have missed what he did to set them off, but I don't see any way to defend that amount of force. Assuming there was a threatening move to an officer to the left I missed, 1 shot could have put him down and two could have taken him out.

Not using the dog?.. no voltage?.. no crowd control chemical?.. Maybe the budget cuts in the county jail kitchen have them implementing a whole new game plan.:shrug:

Chiefnj2 08-17-2012 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8826054)
That dog costs more than the 30 bullets spent on him. They aren't going to release a dog on a guy with a deadly weapon threatening to use it if they release the dog.

Only 1 conclusion can be made from this... If you have a knife in your hand with 5+ officers with weapons drawn, drop the ****ing knife.
The dogs going to cost a lot less than the legal fees and jury award that goes to the man's family.

Donger 08-17-2012 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Amnorix (Post 8826048)
At the 1:58 mark or so the cops are moving in on their victim and you see two cops come out of the bushes.

I'm supremely unconvinced that they were either close enough to be sufficiently threatened to open fire, and that they had exhausted other reasonable means to diffuse the situation.

Seriously, WTF do you spend thousands of dollars training police dogs to do if you're just going to throw a hail of lead at a guy with a KNIFE. Not an Uzi, not even a ****ing pistol. A KNIFE!
Like I said, he has a knife (a deadly weapon), is refusing to drop it, and moves toward a cop.

Chief Gump 08-17-2012 01:54 PM
Aren't the police trained to just unload their clip when they open fire?

BIG_DADDY 08-17-2012 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 8826058)
Like I said, he has a knife (a deadly weapon), is refusing to drop it, and moves toward a cop.
LMAO

jd1020 08-17-2012 01:55 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 8826057)
The dogs going to cost a lot less than the legal fees and jury award that goes to the man's family.
LMAO

The guy had a deadly weapon in his hand and moved towards officers. What possible money are they going to receive? At most a couple of cops will get suspended for a couple weeks for excessive force.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8826054)
That dog costs more than the 30 bullets spent on him. They aren't going to release a dog on a guy with a deadly weapon threatening to use it if they release the dog.

Only 1 conclusion can be made from this... If you have a knife in your hand with 5+ officers with weapons drawn, drop the ****ing knife.
absolutely no reason to shoot a guy 30+ times after he dropped like a stone after the 1st shot. None.

I didn't see the guy make any significant move towards anyone.

a single shot the the leg would of be enough, if not a single shot to the kneecap.

The fact that they ALL shot in unison should be enough to prove intent and get them fired.

complete bullshit

jd1020 08-17-2012 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8826069)
absolutely no reason to shoot a guy 30+ times after he dropped like a stone after the 1st shot. None.

I didn't see the guy make any significant move towards anyone.

a single shot the the leg would of be enough, if not a single shot to the kneecap.


complete bullshit
Single shot to the leg. This aint Hollywood.

Brock 08-17-2012 01:58 PM
Same old murdering cop enabling idiots.

tooge 08-17-2012 02:00 PM
Meh, I was more bummed about the dog. BTW, is, or should I say was he a midget or was he on his knees that entire time?

BIG_DADDY 08-17-2012 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Brock (Post 8826073)
Same old murdering cop enabling idiots.
It gets more over the top every time.

ReynardMuldrake 08-17-2012 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Laz (Post 8825981)
kinda my 1st impression too

1. no gun
2. not within 5 feet of another living being

I would think AT MOST it would take a single shot to the leg.

where are all the tazers they use on little old ladies?


The guy was clearly wrong but 30+ shots?
The danger zone for a knife-wielding attacker is more like 20 feet.

And the cops never, ever shoot for the legs. That's silly. It's called lethal force for a reason.

The only point of contention really is the number of rounds fired. I would have to defer to the cops on that one.

Chiefnj2 08-17-2012 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8826063)
LMAO

The guy had a deadly weapon in his hand and moved towards officers. What possible money are they going to receive? At most a couple of cops will get suspended for a couple weeks for excessive force.
I'm thinking a jury will award about $200k per bullet fired.

qabbaan 08-17-2012 02:01 PM
Deadly force is deadly force. If someone decides to use it, there is no "amount" of deadly force that is justified. It's either justified or it isn't. One shot or a hundred are the same.

My question is just, why didn't they tase him instead. Tasers are for this situation, where it's too dangerous to subdue some violent nut job without using deadly force.

Mr. Laz 08-17-2012 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 8826072)
Single shot to the leg. This aint Hollywood.
You're right because unlike Hollywood a single shot will make most people curl up on the ground and cry.

I know because i have been shot.

have you?


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