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New World Order 09-03-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8875847)
I gave Dontari Poe credit for flashing some nice pass rush skills in game two.

The dude showed precious little as a real NT, though.

That's fair.

We basically had one preseason game where the team showed anything, so please realize that I credit the Chiefs fully for looking good against the Arizona Cardinals.

This team was dogshit against the Rams and Seahawks.
Dog. Shit.




Exactly. There is a common misconception among Chiefs fans (specifically blind Pioli supporters) according to them the Cardinals game was just a small showing of what the Chiefs are capable of, but the Rams and Seahawk games are blown off as "Only Preseason."

Saccopoo 09-03-2012 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop12 (Post 8875832)
Flowers is one of the best man coverage corners in the NFL. One reason we ditched Carr was because Carr was weak in man and we had to play a lot of zones. With Rout we can let Flowers play man... Height isn't that important until you're past the 50

However, i do agree with your logic that even second stringers have different skillsets and are better at some things than their starters.

Good post and spot on about Flowers and Carr. Routt is a decent man coverage guy and I've got hope about Brown. He's not a #1 CB, but he's got the same skillset as Carr when he came into the league. The potential is there.

RealSNR 09-03-2012 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8875821)
So, preseason matters when its poor play, and doesn't when its good?

Whatever supports your agenda, I suppose.

Clay's perceived biases don't change the fact that Dontari Poe will suck complete ass against the run.

He's not ready.

mcaj22 09-03-2012 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop12 (Post 8875832)
Flowers is one of the best man coverage corners in the NFL. One reason we ditched Carr was because Carr was weak in man and we had to play a lot of zones. With Rout we can let Flowers play man... Height isn't that important until you're past the 50

However, i do agree with your logic that even second stringers have different skillsets and are better at some things than their starters.

This is wrong. Carr is better in man. Rob Ryan plays man defense. You have it backwards.

mcaj22 09-03-2012 11:05 PM

and Brandon Siler is a better tackler than ****ing Derrick Johnson our best all around Pro Bowl veteran to our defense?

If that isnt true denial homerism I dont know what is. holy shit whatever people need to grasp on to have a glimmer of false hope but come on, that might be worse than saying Demorrio Williams is a better tackler than DJ.

BigMeatballDave 09-03-2012 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8875865)
Clay's perceived biases don't change the fact that Dontari Poe will suck complete ass against the run.

He's not ready.

You can see into the future, too?

Wow.

I know DTs take a few yrs to fully develop, but I'll at least wait until the season to begin before saying he'll 'completely suck'.

RealSNR 09-03-2012 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8875877)
You can see into the future, too?

Wow.

I know DTs take a few yrs to fully develop, but I'll at least wait until the season to begin before saying he'll 'completely suck'.

If Romeo believes Poe deserves to be the primary 1st and 2nd down NT instead of Powe, he's kowtowing to contract and NOT playing the best guy for the job. I thought that's what the Patriot Way was all about, but it's apparent that it's just as fickle and full of shit as the other NFL team-building "philosophies" out there.

There are of course, two other options:

1. Romeo is stupid

2. Poe has been playing better against the run at the 0 in the super ultra top secret practices that are closed to the media, and chooses to let Powe look more experienced and consistent in preseason games and training camp. In private conversations with Romeo, he has assured the coach that the awesome Poe in the super secret practices will be the one we all see during the regular season, or at least until Toribio is healthy again.

RealSNR 09-03-2012 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8875877)
You can see into the future, too?

Wow.

I know DTs take a few yrs to fully develop, but I'll at least wait until the season to begin before saying he'll 'completely suck'.

He's not the best guy for the job. You disagree?

Hammock Parties 09-03-2012 11:14 PM

Based on everything we've seen to date, he will suck as a true NT.

It's nothing but pure, blind homerism to say otherwise.

Saccopoo 09-03-2012 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by New World Order (Post 8875857)
Exactly. There is a common misconception among Chiefs fans (specifically blind Pioli supporters) according to them the Cardinals game was just a small showing of what the Chiefs are capable of, but the Rams and Seahawk games are blown off as "Only Preseason."

Hey C.E., it must be nice having your mom follow up all your posts.

saphojunkie 09-03-2012 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackBob (Post 8875342)
Flowers misses time every year and we are prepared for it. Also, he would struggle against White if he was 100%. We would miss him in the run defense but Berry is back

The difference between Lewis and Elam isn't much. Elam tackles better.

Siler is a better tackler than DJ. He will help in stopping Micheal Turner. The problem is that we won't have a LBer capable of even trying to cover Gonzalez. I think we run the nickel most of the day. Look for the 3-3-5 with Daniels, Elam and Berry all playing safety.

Is outright trolling actually banable?

BigMeatballDave 09-03-2012 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 8875890)
He's not the best guy for the job. You disagree?

Powe is certainly better for it this season.

Which I was happy to see.

BigMeatballDave 09-03-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning (Post 8875894)
Based on everything we've seen to date, he will suck as a true NT.

It's nothing but pure, blind homerism to say otherwise.

Will?

So he'll always suck at NT?

Or just the near future?

xztop12 09-03-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BoneKrusher (Post 8875398)
man o man.

.

BigMeatballDave 09-03-2012 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie (Post 8875906)
Is outright trolling actually banable?

Obviously not.

Clay and Knowmo have several thousand posts that prove otherwise.


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