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confused 12-17-2012 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9217135)
they are simply attention whores. It doesn't matter who dies, if it makes headlines, they will be there.

In that case, here's to them protesting Fred's funeral when he splits hell wide open here in a few years/months/weeks/days/hours/minutes.

WildTurkey 12-17-2012 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Bump (Post 9217135)
they are simply attention whores. It doesn't matter who dies, if it makes headlines, they will be there.

True.. Wish more people would handle it like they did at aTm. That human wall was great.

confused 12-17-2012 01:39 AM

Also to Dave, you've clearly shown that you concede that the Westboro Baptist Church does hideous and evil things. With that said, if you deny God, then it follows you deny that objective moral values exist. WBC's evil would merely be subjective and therefore determined by you and I. If they think it's good and is not evil, who says that their moral code is anymore right or wrong than ours? In the end, us and them are in the same boat in terms of our moral law and after death (no hell below, no heaven above). Like Dostoevsky once said, without God everything is morally permissible.

ShortRoundChief 12-17-2012 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by FalconFan2 (Post 9217197)
Also to Dave, you've clearly shown that you concede that the Westboro Baptist Church does hideous and evil things. With that said, if you deny God, then it follows you deny that objective moral values exist. WBC's evil would merely be subjective and therefore determined by you and I. If they think it's good and is not evil, who says that their moral code is anymore right or wrong than ours? In the end, us and them are in the same boat in terms of our moral law and after death (no hell below, no heaven above). Like Dostoevsky once said, without God everything is morally permissible.

Of course that is entirely dependent upon you believe if God delivered the objective moral standards in the first place.

confused 12-17-2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9217216)
Of course that is entirely dependent upon you believe if God delivered the objective moral standards in the first place.

can morality be explained in a society without God? Not saying one NEEDS God to commit good acts, but that there would be no objectively true moral law without a moral law giver.

Coach 12-17-2012 02:03 AM

I wouldn't mind this organization losing it's tax-exempt status, and labeled as a terrorist organization.

That'd be a win in my book by President Obama and Congress.

ShortRoundChief 12-17-2012 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FalconFan2 (Post 9217222)
can morality be explained in a society without God? Not saying one NEEDS God to commit good acts, but that there would be no objectively true moral law without a moral law giver.

Did morality exist prior to humans?

What is true moral law?

ShortRoundChief 12-17-2012 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9217232)
I wouldn't mind this organization losing it's tax-exempt status, and labeled as a terrorist organization.

That'd be a win in my book by President Obama and Congress.

As much as I despise them it wouldn't be a win. They've committed no terrorist acts. They are merely exercising their freedom of speech.

Coach 12-17-2012 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy (Post 9217238)
As much as I despise them it wouldn't be a win. They've committed no terrorist acts. They are merely exercising their freedom of speech.

No, they're a hate group, that's what it is. They need to be dealt with, and accourdingly.

The American Bar Association defines hate speech as "speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits."

Do you think the Westboro Baptist Church is exercising its right to free speech, or does this classify as hate speech?

I don't think so.

Therefore, I have no problem with labeling them as a terrorist group and shipping their asses first class to Gitmo.

Imon Yourside 12-17-2012 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9217258)
No, they're a hate group, that's what it is. They need to be dealt with, and accourdingly.

The American Bar Association defines hate speech as "speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits."

Do you think the Westboro Baptist Church is exercising its right to free speech, or does this classify as hate speech?

I don't think so.

Therefore, I have no problem with labeling them as a terrorist group and shipping their asses first class to Gitmo.

Hate speech is a slippery slope, This is America we can't attack problems with Soviet tactics.

WildTurkey 12-17-2012 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9217258)
No, they're a hate group, that's what it is. They need to be dealt with, and accourdingly.

The American Bar Association defines hate speech as "speech that offends, threatens, or insults groups, based on race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation, disability, or other traits."

Do you think the Westboro Baptist Church is exercising its right to free speech, or does this classify as hate speech?

I don't think so.

Therefore, I have no problem with labeling them as a terrorist group and shipping their asses first class to Gitmo.

Force them into military service, I'm sure they'd make "operation human shield" a success

Coach 12-17-2012 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9217272)
Hate speech is a slippery slope, This is America we can't attack problems with Soviet tactics.

Sometimes, if we have to clean up the mess, especially with some organization cults, we'd have to go with Soviet tactics. I'm tired of hearing those loons running around wild with no restrictions at all.

I'm not saying you have to attack them physically. I'm saying, attack them psychologically. Hit them. Hard. Reclassifying them as a "hate" group would be a great start.

There is no logic into picketing a vigil. None. Zip. Zero.

This WBC crap has got to end.

Sorter 12-17-2012 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by WildTurkey (Post 9217280)
Force them into military service, I'm sure they'd make "operation human shield" a success

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Imon Yourside 12-17-2012 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 9217283)
Sometimes, if we have to clean up the mess, especially with some organization cults, we'd have to go with Soviet tactics. I'm tired of hearing those loons running around wild with no restrictions at all.

I'm not saying you have to attack them physically. I'm saying, attack them psychologically. Hit them. Hard. Reclassifying them as a "hate" group would be a great start.

There is no logic into picketing a vigil. None. Zip. Zero.

This WBC crap has got to end.

I would rather someone just took care of them physically, I wouldn't shed a tear. We don't need to label them as I think we've already done that, it would be nice if the courts would reject hearing their cases. I agree that picketing anything related to death is not only senseless but also against the plain teachings of Jesus.

Sorter 12-17-2012 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9217289)
I would rather someone just took care of them physically, I wouldn't shed a tear. We don't need to label them as I think we've already done that, it would be nice if the courts would reject hearing their cases. I agree that picketing anything related to death is not only senseless but also against the plain teachings of Jesus.

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