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Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 9367127)

Solution: Drink more water and less soda.

You made it ma man, congrats.

Nope. Actually soda's help dissolve them. Also it's the KIND of water you drink. Typically faucet water contains minerals that can cause the stones. If you get them a lot, and you want to reduce them the only way is to drink distilled water. Here is a good article:

http://ezinearticles.com/?Home-Remed...ally&id=825093

Honest question, what's the benefit of going to the emergency room? Antibiotics? Pain meds? I've never had one.

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9367524)

Honest question, what's the benefit of going to the emergency room? Antibiotics? Pain meds? I've never had one.

To relieve the pain of the stone passing through the kidneys

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9367538)

To relieve the pain of the stone passing through the kidneys

So they give you something as it's passing?

I woke up with a urinary tract infection after 24 hours of tripping once, nearly dropped me to my knees taking the longest piss ever. Kidney stones scare the the hell out me.

10 years ago when I was having my gall bladder surgery I was sitting in the prep room waiting to be taken in for the surgery. About 20 minutes before I was scheduled to go in, they came in and told me that they had to move me back because they were having to do surgery on a guy with kidney stones. Not knowing any better (and never hoping to find out now) I asked, "what makes his situation any worse than mine". (I was told that they HAD to take my gall bladder out that day before it burst and caused other issues).

They told me that they would give me something to make my pain better and I could hang on the extra half hour. I didn't believe them until I saw them wheel the guy in...I seriously thought his head was going to do a 360....i completely expected his head to burst like something from the movie "Scanners". And I swear i thought I saw him bend one of the rails on the bed. (Most of what I saw might be contributed to the meds they gave me to make me feel better)

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9367538)

To relieve the pain of the stone passing through the kidneys

oh my sweet jesus i will head for the er immediately and tell them to shoot me up with as much morphine as humanly possible.
glad u passed that thing out safely.

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9367514)

I finally got thru her head that supplements are better for her rather than talking to her doctor and getting another pill.

This.

Proper nutrition seems like a class we all slept through in high school but for the most part it can do more for health than anything.

Also rotating your meals (different fruits/veggies/proteins) has a huge impact...

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9367456)

I took my wife to the ER at 1am Tuesday. She went back this morning and was admitted. She has a 6cm stone that is not passing yet. They are going to put in a stent in this afternoon. This is her 3rd round of kidney stones.

I hope you meant 6MM

My wife has had them a couple of times. She is usually pretty tough but the stones really took it out of her. I wouldn't wish them on anyone (well, maybe ***** :)).

As for calcium, it's a good idea to avoid supplements but it's important to get enough calcium in your diet.

From Wiki:

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Calcium

Calcium is one component of the most common type of human kidney stones, calcium oxalate. Some studies suggest people who take supplemental calcium have a higher risk of developing kidney stones, and these findings have been used as the basis for setting the recommended daily intake for calcium in adults.[7] In the Women's Health Initiative, postmenopausal women who consumed 1000 mg of supplemental calcium and 400 international units of vitamin D per day for seven years had a 17% higher risk of developing kidney stones than subjects taking a placebo.[8] The Nurses' Health Study also showed an association between supplemental calcium intake and kidney stone formation.[6]

Unlike supplemental calcium, high intakes of dietary calcium do not appear to cause kidney stones and may actually protect against their development.[6][8] This is perhaps related to the role of calcium in binding ingested oxalate in the gastrointestinal tract. As the amount of calcium intake decreases, the amount of oxalate available for absorption into the bloodstream increases; this oxalate is then excreted in greater amounts into the urine by the kidneys. In the urine, oxalate is a very strong promoter of calcium oxalate precipitation, about 15 times stronger than calcium. In fact, current evidence suggests the consumption of diets low in calcium is associated with a higher overall risk for the development of kidney stones.[9] For most individuals, however, other risk factors for kidney stones, such as high intakes of dietary oxalates and low fluid intake, probably play a greater role than calcium intake.[10]

I know it's Wiki and all but I have also read the same elsewhere as well as looked at some of the studies.

Foods high in oxalates are best avoided:

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Information About Dietary Oxalates

If you form calcium-oxalate kidney stones, it is important to limit your intake of dietary oxalates. Many healthy foods contain oxalate; you should limit those with very high concentrations. Below is a list of food containing very high levels of oxalate. Small amounts of these foods periodically are less harmful than single large amounts or binges.

Grains

Wheat germ

Vegetables

Beets, fresh or pickled
Collards *
Okra
Pokeweed (poke greens)
Pursiane leaves
Rhubarb
Soy foods (including soy milk)
Swiss chard
Spinach

Snacks

Nuts (peanuts, peanut butter, pecans)
Chocolate/Cocoa
Citrus Peel (candied lime, orange, lemon)

Beverages

Tea (green tea is OK)
Hot Chocolate/Chocolate Milk

Condiments

Black Pepper

Keep in mind that cooking greens condenses the oxalate level per serving. In other words, a small spinach salad would contain much less oxalate than a small serving of cooked spinach.

http://www.iksi.org/patients/educati...tary-oxalates/

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Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 9367588)

I hope you meant 6MM

I am going off of text messages she sent me this morning and she is heavily medicated. I haven't gone to see her today. I will going to see her after work.

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Originally Posted by bevischief (Post 9367612)

I am going off of text messages she sent me this morning and she is heavily medicated. I haven't gone to see her today. I will going to see her after work.

If she has to pass a 2 1/3" stone, my prayers are with her.

Either way, I wish her the best.

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Originally Posted by Inmem58 (Post 9367119)

I passed two kidney stones this morning at 2 AM. First time that's ever happened to me. It was by far the worst pain I've ever dealt with.

Anybody else had this happen? I had to cut in front of 7 people because of the pain I was in. I felt horrible, but could not take that shit.

Keep those ****ing things in a jar! Put it up on your fireplace so you have a something to smile about everyday out of the door.

Glad you made it interenet friend.

I thought when u cook a vegetable it loses alot of its nutrients? but when u cook spinach it becomes higher in oxalate?

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Originally Posted by Chief_For_Life58 (Post 9367618)

I thought when u cook a vegetable it loses alot of its nutrients? but when u cook spinach it becomes higher in oxalate?

More concentrated, not higher. A whole bag of spinach cooks down to about a handful.

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Originally Posted by KCUnited (Post 9367548)

They hooked me to an ivy and added a pain killer, deflammatory and some medicine that makes you drowsy into my ivy. It kills the horrific pain immediately. Peeing them out is not painful it's when the stone is traveling through your kidney.

A lady next to my room told me her husband gets them all the time and peeing them out, is in fact, almost painless. When it was going through my kidneys it damn near dropped me to my knees. I walked on a high ankle sprain that hurt like hell, but after going through this.......give me two high ankle sprains lol.

I'm gonna drink water, snort it, shoot it up and take water pills with water as a chaser from now on.