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Nine Inch Nails New Album, "Hesitation Marks" Available on 9/3/13 (https://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=273806)

WhiteWhale

06-14-2013 04:22 PM

I loved NIN back in the day, but just stay retired dude.

MTG#10

06-14-2013 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9751009)

Trent needs to stick with film scoring because as NIN, he hasn't put out a groundbreaking (or even unique) album since The Fragile.

With Teeth is way better than The Fragile...though I still like it too. Some of the best NIN songs ever...

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rico	06-14-2013 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9752515)

Huge Nails fan, probably my favorite band but not sure...its almost impossible to pick an all time favorite. Back in high school (93-97) I had about 10 different NIN shirts that I wore damn near every day...yeah I was "that guy". Cant wait for this new album, and couldnt disagree with Dane more...With Teeth and The Slip were ****ing great.

With Teeth is way better than The Fragile...though I still like it too. Some of the best NIN songs ever...

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"All the Love in the World" is one of my favorite songs of all time.

I had like 5 NIN shirts...and people always looked at me funny as if it didn't make any sense or if they thought I was being sarcastic because I was a jock/captain of the wrestling team my Junior and Senior year. I didn't give a shit what they thought about it...they obviously hadn't listened to or given NIN a chance.

DaneMcCloud

06-14-2013 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9752515)

You misunderstood my posts. I didn't say that his records after The Fragile were "bad" in any way, shape or form. I said that he didn't break any new ground or offer anything different than he did with The Fragile.

With Teeth, Year Zero, etc. were just a collection of songs. Maybe you like those songs better than the songs on The Fragile. But the bottom line is that all of those records were just an extension of what he initially created for The Fragile back in 1997/1998.

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9752515)

With Teeth is way better than The Fragile...though I still like it too. Some of the best NIN songs ever...

That's a matter of opinion. What's not a matter of opinion is that fact that Reznor's music, lyrical perspective, production techniques and overall sound and vibe haven't changed a bit since the release of The Fragile.

He has not grown as an artist, which was my original point.

MTG#10

06-14-2013 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9752975)

So what? If its not broke don't fix it. Im glad he hasn't changed.

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9752975)

He has not grown as an artist, which was my original point.

Metallica "grew" as artists and suck complete ass now compared to everything before the black album.

DaneMcCloud

06-14-2013 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9752993)

So what? If its not broke don't fix it. Im glad he hasn't changed.

And this is exactly why his album sales continue to decline, his band members continue to quit, etc.

It's played out.

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9752993)

Metallica "grew" as artists and suck complete ass now compared to everything before the black album.

So, Metallica is your only example? How about The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, The Eagles, Elton John, Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, The Police, Sting, Yes, Black Sabbath, Rush, Aerosmith, Van Halen, let alone artists like Dave Grohl and the Foo's, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden, Heart, Deep Purple and on and on and on.

All of those bands and artists became better at their trade, improved their songwriting and production and most importantly, grew as artists.

I'm happy that you like NIN. That's great! But it's ridiculous to argue that Trent Reznor has gone beyond what he initially started more than 15 years ago.

Ebolapox

06-14-2013 08:52 PM

hey dano,

any word on if rage against the machine will EVER do another album? there have been whispers for years, but it seems everybody is busy doing their own thing.

Third Eye

06-14-2013 09:03 PM

Sadly, as a reflection of where I'm at with NIN currently, I just purchased tickets for the Sigur Ros show which happens to be on the same night. Oh well, I've seen NIN numerous times anyway.

And just because I'm curious, I'll repeat myself:

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Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 9752100)

As an aside: Dane, with your inside knowledge, any idea why Tapeworm never happened? I've always assumed it was a case of too many chiefs and not enough indians, but Maynard seemed to genuinely like the material considering the APC and Puscifer versions of Tapeworm songs.

DaneMcCloud

06-14-2013 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 9753016)

My apologies: I missed your initial post.

Some of my good friends were just out with Danny and Maynard for a B-day celebration last week. I'm hooking up with one of the guys I the next week or so and I'll inquire.

MTG#10

06-14-2013 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9753000)

And this is exactly why his album sales continue to decline, his band members continue to quit, etc.

It's played out.

So, Metallica is your only example? How about The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, Led Zeppelin, The Eagles, Elton John, Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, The Police, Sting, Yes, Black Sabbath, Rush, Aerosmith, Van Halen, let alone artists like Dave Grohl and the Foo's, Stone Temple Pilots, Soundgarden, Heart, Deep Purple and on and on and on.

The Beatles - Old stuff was better.

The Rolling Stones - Can't comment, never cared for more than a few songs.

The Who - Old stuff was better.

Led Zeppelin - Old stuff was better.

The Eagles - ****ing suck, don't care.

The Police - Old stuff was better.

Yes - Seriously?

Black Sabbath - Ozzie was way better than Dio.

Rush - Who cares

Van Halen - DLR was 1000 X's better than Hagar.

Nirvana 1000 X's better than Foo Fighters

STP - Old stuff was better.

Soundgarden - Old stuff was better.

Heart - Who cares

Deep Purple - Old stuff was better.

Your examples suck ass.

DaneMcCloud

06-14-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9753023)

You know, I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt because this is an entirely different topic and forum. But there's just no denying that you're a goddamned moron.

Good luck with that.

Third Eye

06-14-2013 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9753022)

Thanks, I've always been curious.

MTG#10

06-14-2013 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 9753027)

You know, I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt because this is an entirely different topic and forum. But there's just no denying that you're a goddamned moron.

Good luck with that.

Eight year-olds dude

DaneMcCloud

06-14-2013 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by MTG#10 (Post 9753036)

Eight year-olds dude

You're not funny. You're just an idiot.

It's not surprising that someone of your extremely limited intellect can't understand the difference between the growth of an artist versus selling out to the fans in order to continue to earn money.

Not surprising at all. Oh, and way to dumb down a great thread.

DaneMcCloud

06-14-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Ebolapox (Post 9753002)

hey dano,

any word on if rage against the machine will EVER do another album? there have been whispers for years, but it seems everybody is busy doing their own thing.

I would doubt that if it happens, it happens anytime soon. The "band" (Brad, Timmy and Tom) all get along really well and are great friends. Zach is an "outsider" and prone to do his own thing.

I probably shouldn't share this but at two different times in my life, I shared a space with the Rage guys. They were all great dudes and were a blast to watch in a small room. But that said, I never met or saw Zach even once. The band would rehearse all the time, write new songs, etc. but Zach was never around.

That's not too uncommon, because singers are the last ingredient to a band and there's no reason why a singer should blow out his voice while the band is rehearsing and preparing for the studio or the road. But I *never* saw Zach, which I always thought was odd.

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