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AdumbGuy 07-27-2013 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9839799)
Your self chosen handle is truly prophetic.

Your command of diction is impressive as your command of mickey's dick in your mouth, good sir. What exactly is my handle "prophesying?" Next time, try the word "apt." For example, you might have said:

"Your self chosen handle is truly apt, because I am Scott Free and the pounding my forehead has taken from Mickey's old withered balls has left me incapable of creative retorts."

nah, just kidding. Why is Mickey not a douchebag, though?

Easy 6 07-27-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by AdumbGuy (Post 9839976)
Your command of diction is impressive as your command of mickey's dick in your mouth, good sir. What exactly is my handle "prophesying?" Next time, try the word "apt." For example, you might have said:

"Your self chosen handle is truly apt, because I am Scott Free and the pounding my forehead has taken from Mickey's old withered balls has left me incapable of creative retorts."

nah, just kidding. Why is Mickey not a douchebag, though?

The Mick, you ignorant wart, did just what any good coach does for a dissolute, lazy pupil... first he angers them, then he gets them to understand that the reason for their anger is their own disappointment in themselves, then he pats them on the back and builds them up again.

Its a time honored strategy, tear them down to nothing... then build them back up anew, you wart.

cosmo20002 07-27-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AdumbGuy (Post 9832939)
Am I the only one that hated Mickey? He was a selfish, bigoted, opportunistic prick that set Rocky up for failure by rigging his matches when he became a champion. And Rocky learned more from Creed about boxing, so it's not like Mickey taught him much other than how to chase chickens and to ignore his wife. **** Mickey.

I think that might possibly be true.

How was he selfish bigoted, and an opportunistic prick? He didn't rig his matches. Mickey taught him enough to beat Apollo and become the champion, so not sure what you are talking about.

cosmo20002 07-28-2013 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 9831640)
One of the things I always hated about Rocky V:

Apollo Creed had bank. You're telling me that his wife did nothing to help out the Balboas after Rocky avenged her husband's death, giving himself permanent brain damage in the process? There's no ****ing way that would have happened.

What has always bugged the shit out of me is the end of the second fight with Apollo.

Rocky blasts Apollo and knocks him down. Rocky is so exhausted that he loses his balance and falls. The ref starts the 10-count and it is presented as if he is counting on both of them and that Rocky needs to get up or he'll be counted out. NO! Slipping and falling is not a knockdown. As long as Apollo doesn't get up by 10, Rocky wins. Goddamit! :cuss:

AdumbGuy 07-28-2013 12:05 AM

Hah, now we're talking, you diseased hairy twat!

I don't remember Mickey doing any of that though. First, Rocky was never a dissolute or lazy pupil.

Exhibit A - Even when working for a loan shark, he wouldn't hurt the guy he was supposed to rough up. He carried in the drunk out of the cold into the warm bar. He tried to steer the little girl away from the dissolute delinquents on the corner. For all intents and purposes, Rocky was a pretty stand up guy.

Exhibit B - He wasn't lazy. He was doing his 4am workout routine long before mickey showed up. I'm lazy. If you told me I had to wake up at 4am on a philly morning to go workout, I'd spit in your face, I would - if I wasn't so lazy, that is.

Finally, Mick "angered" Rocky by telling him he was an old failure of a man while begging Rocky to let him be his manager outside his bathroom door. That's got to be the worst time honored strategy I've ever heard.

I suggest it's been a while since you saw the movie - I'd recommend watching it again because it really is an underrated, fantastic movie. For example, going completely against all Hollywood conventions - the only character other than his gf that's genuinely nice to Rocky without wanting something in return - his loanshark boss.

sincerely,

AKnowledgeableWart

Rausch 07-28-2013 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by frazod (Post 9831780)
Yep. I liked the new Rambo much better than the new Rocky.

I really liked the new Rambo.

I went in ready to go MST3k all over it but......it.....was good.

007 07-28-2013 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by RINGLEADER (Post 9839953)
Just wait -- there's another Stallone announcement coming very soon that will cause heads to explode...

:cuss:

AdumbGuy 07-29-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by scott free (Post 9839493)
I think this idea has real potential, what else is Stallone going to mine at this point, Cliffhanger 2?

I didnt care much for "Rocky Balboa"... had its solid contemporary moments, but overall i just didnt connect like i wanted to.

Have him coach up the new blood, yeah, that sounds cool... its easy to kill Stallone for so many things, but Rocky 1-3 were bonafide classic american cinema... but just as with Balboa, i wonder if Sly is even close enough to being the same guy who's able to bring that innocent charm to the character.

Not sure about this yet, but color me interested.

hah, Tango and Cash 2. Actually, why wasn't there a Cobra 2!

AdumbGuy 07-29-2013 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 9840004)
I think that might possibly be true.

How was he selfish bigoted, and an opportunistic prick? He didn't rig his matches. Mickey taught him enough to beat Apollo and become the champion, so not sure what you are talking about.

Bigoted just because I assume every olde timey character in every movie is bigoted. In reality, I don't remember why, but I remember thinking that about him back when. Perhaps confusing him with Paulie?

Selfish opportunistic prick? Pretty easy.
Opportunistic - The only reason he trains Rocky is because Rocky wins the boxing lottery.
Selfish - His pitch to become Rocky's manager is to tell Rocky about his own prime and missed opportunity.
Prick - throws Rocky's stuff out without telling him, mocks Rocky publicly for no particular reason.

He's a pretty shitty trainer too - Rocky's strategy is 1. catch chickens, 2. women weaken legs, 3. get the everloving shit beat out of you and miraculously survive it all. Apollo Creed teaches him more in a week!

Mickey rigged the opponents after Rocky became champion to extend his reign. That's why Clubber Lang rightly called Rocky soft and then beat the everloving shit out of him.

That said, c'mon! can't I call him bigoted too? Look at him, all olde and shit

Predarat 07-29-2013 01:57 PM

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