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My cunning plan to fix the NFL draft order and why it's a problem (https://chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=280441)

So another idea the NFL would never do: Make players who are re-signed by their team from the previous year count against the cap at 75% of their standard cap figure. This should increase player retention so fans can actually root for their players and buy their jerseys without worrying about them running off to another team.

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 10350691)

Texans would be picking 14th this year rather than first.

Did they tank like Indy? Is tanking an AFCS specialty?

This is pretty close to the actual 2013 draft order. It's just more accurate to prevent teams like the Texans from taking the #1 overall spot.

Had it been in place last year, the Chiefs would have probably benefitted from not being forced into picking for positional value, since they wouldn't have had the #1 overall pick.

I think it's a good thing, anyway.

20. Ravens (8-8, 10-6, 12-4) 30-18
19. Steelers (8-8, 8-8, 12-4) 28-20
18. Falcons (10-6, 13-3, 4-12) 27-21
17. Bears (8-8, 10-6, 8-8) 26-22
16. Giants (9-7, 9-7, 7-9) 25-23
t-15. Cowboys (8-8, 8-8, 8-8) 24-24
t-14. Houston (2-14, 12-4, 10-6) 24-24
13. Cardinals (8-8, 5-11, 10-6) 23-25
t-12. New York Jets (8-8, 6-10, 8-8) 22-26
t-11. Tennessee (7-9, 6-10, 9-7) 22-26
t-10. Lions (10-6, 4-12, 7-9) 21-27
t-9. Miami (6-10, 7-9, 8-8) 21-27
8. Vikings (3-13, 10-6, 5-10-1) 18-29-1
t-7. Redskins (5-11, 10-6, 3-13) 18-30
t-6. Buffalo (6-10, 6-10, 6-10) 18-30
5. Rams (2-14, 7-8-1, 7-9) 16-31-1
4. Bucs (4-12, 7-9, 4-12) 15-33
3. Browns (4-12, 5-11, 4-12) 13-35
2. Oakland (4-12, 4-12, 4-12) 12-36
1. Jacksonville (4-12, 2-14, 5-11) 11-37

OP updated with the new draft order 1-20

Zach Lowe wrote an entire article about this related to the NBA Draft on Grantland about two weeks ago.

How long does it take to construct one of these kinds of posts? Impressive.

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10350853)

Zach Lowe wrote an entire article about this related to the NBA Draft on Grantland about two weeks ago.

I just killed Zach Lowe and ****ed his wife.

I win.

I like it. It'll never happen, but I like it.

The Rams would own the 5th and 7th picks. Damn.

So how would you handle teams that go from 2 years of playoffs to one shitty year? Do you still include the total of 3 years? Basically they just get moved way to the back of the line, i.e. #20?

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 10350893)

So how would you handle teams that go from 2 years of playoffs to one shitty year? Do you still include the total of 3 years? Basically they just get moved way to the back of the line, i.e. #20?

Correct. Because in theory they're not as bad as a team that has not made the playoffs two years in a row and still has a shitty record.

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10350842)

OP updated with the new draft order 1-20

FWIW, the .5x,1x,2x method gives you this order with weighted average number of wins.

1. Jacksonville 4.667
2. Cleveland 5
3. Chokeland 5.333
4.t Washington 6.333
4.t Houston 6.333
6.t Tampa 6.667
6.t Buffalo 6.667
8. Detroit 7
9. Minnesota 7.167
10. Tennessee 7.667
11. St Loser 8.167
12. Miami 8.667
13. Dallas 9
14.t NYJ 9.167
14.t Arizona 9.167
14.t Atlanta 9.167
17. NYG 9.333
18.t Chicago 10
18.t Pittsburgh 10
20. Baltimore 10.667

Goddell is going to fine SNR for this.
Illegal logic.

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Originally Posted by SNR (Post 10350684)

That's why I made it three seasons instead of two. It's pretty damn difficult to anticipate a draft class two or more seasons ahead. And it's pretty hard to intentionally lose for that long.

And the best part of this is that once the teams who got that extra boost make the postseason, their benefits are cut off. A team that starts from nothing but puts together two pretty damn good draft classes in back-to-back years is now cut off from the system once they can walk on their own. The very year they make the playoffs, those terrible records the two previous years don't matter. They're big boys, and now they have to fend for themselves.

I can just imagine a scenario where a team has been shit for two years. They've hired a new coach, drafted a few young pieces, and are on the verge. With a few FA moves, they could be a legit wild card contender.
Instead of doing that, though, they decide the missing piece is at the top of the next draft, and sign below avg FAs to get to the salary floor, and tank the season in hopes of getting Andrew Luck.
It's essentially the same as it is now, but with that extra year.
Not a huge problem, but I could see that scenario.