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Rain Man 01-20-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass (Post 10382819)
:) Rain I admire your consistency...

We all need a mission in life.

vailpass 01-20-2014 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10382825)
Eh, win or lose Peyton returns for one more season.

Victory lap...

vailpass 01-20-2014 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10382828)
We all need a mission in life.

True. But you put life in your mission...

Why Not? 01-20-2014 01:47 PM

23-20 Seattle. Denver w all their weapons only scored 24 and 26 against two teams that the 3rd place team in Seattles division is better than

Bowser 01-20-2014 01:47 PM

I want Seattle to win it, but Denver is just too strong. That offense under Manning is literally unlike anything we've seen in the NFL, ever.

cosmo20002 01-20-2014 01:48 PM

Regarding the "NFL needs Manning to win" sentiment--Why do they need him to win?

The ads are already sold. Nothing to gain there. As far as his impact on the ratings, that's based on him simply playing in the game. Whether he's on the winning side when the clock hits 0:00 isn't going to make a difference on what the game ratings were.

Frankly, the logic goes that Peyton may retire (or be more likely to retire) if he wins. Surely, the NFL would like to have him back for another season or more. Overall, the NFL probably benefits more if he loses than wins.

chaz 01-20-2014 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10382827)
I had no wrong numbers. You just do not wish to see the truth. When you open your eyes and your mind, you shall see the truth, and it shall set you free.

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10366453)
So you would be happy if you draft a quarterback next year who starts for a decade with a QB rating below 80 for nine of those ten years? And who averages 16 TDs and 17 Ints per season? I sure hope you get one of those.

Your numbers are wrong. How does 300 TDs and 226 INTs translate to 16 TDs a year and 17 INTs a year?

I'll tell what I'd take, a winner, which John Elway certainly was. I don't expect you to recognize that, you are a Chiefs fan after all.
Yeah, no wrong numbers there. ROFL

Mr. Plow 01-20-2014 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mile High Mania (Post 10382825)
Eh, win or lose Peyton returns for one more season.

Manning is playing entirely too well to retire after this year, although with a win I could see him going out on top.

bandwagonjumper 01-20-2014 02:18 PM

The donkeys win and Manning pulls an Elway and wins next year and retires.

Eleazar 01-20-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10382838)
Regarding the "NFL needs Manning to win" sentiment--Why do they need him to win?

The ads are already sold. Nothing to gain there. As far as his impact on the ratings, that's based on him simply playing in the game. Whether he's on the winning side when the clock hits 0:00 isn't going to make a difference on what the game ratings were.

Frankly, the logic goes that Peyton may retire (or be more likely to retire) if he wins. Surely, the NFL would like to have him back for another season or more. Overall, the NFL probably benefits more if he loses than wins.

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Rain Man 01-20-2014 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chaz (Post 10382840)
Yeah, no wrong numbers there. ROFL


First ten years, I said. Look at his first ten years, and you'll see 158 TDs and 157 Ints. (I inadvertently added a few more Ints to account for his Super Bowl appearances, I guess.) Once they converted him to a game manager and put a 2,000 yard rusher behind him his numbers went up.

The truth of the matter is that Elway could not carry a team. Terrell Davis could carry a team, and he made the quarterback look better. He elevated Elway's game from mediocre to pretty good.

I don't blame you for your misperceptions. I feel bad when I see the horror in your eyes. I blame the NFL for deciding that they had to make a #1 pick into a legend just because he could throw the ball hard. They didn't just fool you - they fooled most of an entire generation. Now the historians like myself must debunk the myth and re-introduce the facts.

Donger 01-20-2014 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10382836)
I want Seattle to win it, but Denver is just too strong. That offense under Manning is literally unlike anything we've seen in the NFL, ever.

Well, it helps when the refs are tripping up and getting in the way of the defense.

Bowser 01-20-2014 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Donger (Post 10382917)
Well, it helps when the refs are tripping up and getting in the way of the defense.

True. That's not even mentioning the world class holders their line is consisted of.

chaz 01-20-2014 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 10382914)
First ten years, I said. Look at his first ten years, and you'll see 158 TDs and 157 Ints. (I inadvertently added a few more Ints to account for his Super Bowl appearances, I guess.) Once they converted him to a game manager and put a 2,000 yard rusher behind him his numbers went up.

The truth of the matter is that Elway could not carry a team. Terrell Davis could carry a team, and he made the quarterback look better. He elevated Elway's game from mediocre to pretty good.

I don't blame you for your misperceptions. I feel bad when I see the horror in your eyes. I blame the NFL for deciding that they had to make a #1 pick into a legend just because he could throw the ball hard. They didn't just fool you - they fooled most of an entire generation. Now the historians like myself must debunk the myth and re-introduce the facts.

His first ten years he took 3 teams to the SB while throwing to the likes of Mark Jackson, Ricky Natiel, and Van Johnson and handing the ball off to Sammy Winder and Bobby Humphries.

Saying John Elway could not carry a team is arguably the most ignorant football opinion in the history of football opinions.

Anyong Bluth 01-20-2014 02:45 PM

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Seahawks : 34

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Donkeys : 27


I hope a blizzard roles through for the game, and after their loss, Manning announces his retirement, effective immediately.


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