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jjchieffan 02-16-2014 07:26 PM

He showed that he could capably fill in last season playing with a bunch of backups against a San Diego team playing for their playoff lives. That alone makes him worth his contract in my opinion. If Alex goes down, I want to know that the next man in line can step in and not miss a beat. It's not like he's getting starter money or anywhere close. Hell. is contract plus Alex's contract is still way less than Casshole was played. I guess we could get Quinn back for less. Is that what you want?

milkman 02-16-2014 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 10436733)
He showed that he could capably fill in last season playing with a bunch of backups against a San Diego team playing for their playoff lives. That alone makes him worth his contract in my opinion. If Alex goes down, I want to know that the next man in line can step in and not miss a beat. It's not like he's getting starter money or anywhere close. Hell. is contract plus Alex's contract is still way less than Casshole was played. I guess we could get Quinn back for less. Is that what you want?

You asked why he is overpaid.

I answered.

What he did after he received the contract he hadn't earned is irrelevant.

jjchieffan 02-16-2014 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10436731)
No, he's overpaid.

There are no 'untils'.

You earn your second contract based on your performance during your first contract.

He did jack.

So because Brees stayed healthy while he was in New Orleans, he is overpaid? I guess using that logic, the Packers should've never paid Rodgers. After all, Favre never got hurt, what had he proved until the point of Favre's first retirement?

ShowtimeSBMVP 02-16-2014 07:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source says Terrell Suggs&#39; $12.4 million salary-cap figure reduced significantly. Compromise reached. Details not in yet, both sides happy</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@RavensInsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/statuses/435223616721276928">February 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Think this helps KC with Hali?

jjchieffan 02-16-2014 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10436735)
You asked why he is overpaid.

I answered.

What he did after he received the contract he hadn't earned is irrelevant.

So I gues you think he should've been signed for league minimum? Because Brees never missed any games? He got a start last year. He played well. Now he has showed why Reid and Dorsey thought he was worth what they paid him. If he was getting $5M/ year or more, I could see the complaints. But 3 years $10 seems fair to me.

O.city 02-16-2014 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan (Post 10436745)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" lang="en"><p>Source says Terrell Suggs' $12.4 million salary-cap figure reduced significantly. Compromise reached. Details not in yet, both sides happy</p>&mdash; Aaron Wilson (@RavensInsider) <a href="https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/statuses/435223616721276928">February 17, 2014</a></blockquote>
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Think this helps KC with Hali?

Hopefully, cause we are in about the same place there

milkman 02-16-2014 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 10436738)
So because Brees stayed healthy while he was in New Orleans, he is overpaid? I guess using that logic, the Packers should've never paid Rodgers. After all, Favre never got hurt, what had he proved until the point of Favre's first retirement?

I'm fairly certain Rodgers 2nd contract didn't come up until he had 2 years in as the Pack| starter.

But that is just another irrelevant argument.

Dorsey and Reid's faith might be justified, eventually, but one game doesn't justify it.

He didn't earn thar contract.

Everything else is irrelevant bull shit.

jjchieffan 02-16-2014 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10436770)
I'm fairly certain Rodgers 2nd contract didn't come up until he had 2 years in as the Pack| starter.

But that is just another irrelevant argument.

Dorsey and Reid's faith might be justified, eventually, but one game doesn't justify it.

He didn't earn thar contract.

Everything else is irrelevant bull shit.

So what do you think would be a fair contract?

Deberg_1990 02-16-2014 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10436770)
I'm fairly certain Rodgers 2nd contract didn't come up until he had 2 years in as the Pack| starter.

But that is just another irrelevant argument.

Dorsey and Reid's faith might be justified, eventually, but one game doesn't justify it.

He didn't earn thar contract.

Everything else is irrelevant bull shit.

Come on Milk. you know athletes are paid all the time on potential and not just past performance. that's how the game works.
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ThaVirus 02-16-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10436784)
Come on Milk. you know athletes are paid all the time on potential and not just past performance. that's how the game works.
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Yeah, but Daniel was an UDFA and, as Milk said, prior to week 17 of this season he'd taken less than a handful of meaningful snaps in the NFL.

What potential are they seeing?

Dunerdr 02-16-2014 07:59 PM

So where would it put us if Jenkins could replace Avery and Donnie gets cut?

milkman 02-16-2014 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 10436779)
So what do you think would be a fair contract?

3 years, 6 mil, and frankly, I'm being generous.

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 10436784)
Come on Milk. you know athletes are paid all the time on potential and not just past performance. that's how the game works.
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They are paid on potential coming out of college, not on 2nd contracts.

jjchieffan 02-16-2014 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by milkman (Post 10436770)
I'm fairly certain Rodgers 2nd contract didn't come up until he had 2 years in as the Pack| starter.

But that is just another irrelevant argument.

Dorsey and Reid's faith might be justified, eventually, but one game doesn't justify it.

He didn't earn thar contract.

Everything else is irrelevant bull shit.

Rodgers was a first round pick prior to the new rookie wage scale I believe. I'm pretty sure that he was already recieving more than Chase's deal on his rookie contract. What had he done prior to that to earn his contract. I'm having trouble finding current info, but I see that back in 2008 we paid Huard $2.6M and he was middlle of the pack. That was 5 years ago.

KChiefs1 02-16-2014 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 10436733)
He showed that he could capably fill in last season playing with a bunch of backups against a San Diego team playing for their playoff lives. That alone makes him worth his contract in my opinion. If Alex goes down, I want to know that the next man in line can step in and not miss a beat. It's not like he's getting starter money or anywhere close. Hell. is contract plus Alex's contract is still way less than Casshole was played. I guess we could get Quinn back for less. Is that what you want?

If Reid wanted him that's enough for me...it's not like Reid doesn't know anything about QB's.

milkman 02-16-2014 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 10436822)
Rodgers was a first round pick prior to the new rookie wage scale I believe. I'm pretty sure that he was already recieving more than Chase's deal on his rookie contract. What had he done prior to that to earn his contract. I'm having trouble finding current info, but I see that back in 2008 we paid Huard $2.6M and he was middlle of the pack. That was 5 years ago.

Rookies are paid on potential.

2nd contracts are based on previous NFL production.


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