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Ragged Robin 02-24-2014 10:10 AM
Receivers look pretty deep. IMO if Clinton-Dix is on the board at #23 you gotta take him.. we can pick our receiver in the 3rd.

Infidel Goat 02-24-2014 01:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Saccopoo (Post 10443587)
2013 Top WR Drafted & Combine Results:

Tavon Austion, West Virginia
5'8", 174 lb., 30" arms, 9 1/8" hands
Bench: 14 reps
40: 4.34 seconds
Vertical: 32.0"
Broad Jump: 120.0"
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.01 seconds
I will pimp my Demon Deacon (maybe round 4)...

Mike Campanaro, Wake Forest
5'9", 192 lbs, 30" arms, 9 3/4" hands
Bench: 20 reps
40: 4.46 seconds
Vertical: 39.0"
Broad Jump: 122.0"
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.01 seconds

He can return punts and is a prototypical slot receiver.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad 02-24-2014 03:25 PM
I know we need lots of help in other positions, but I'd like to draft two receivers from this class

Direckshun 02-24-2014 03:29 PM
Ideally, the Chiefs will find some way to trade down.

6 picks isn't enough. We need something closer to 8 or 9.

OldSchool 02-24-2014 07:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10450867)
Ideally, the Chiefs will find some way to trade down.

6 picks isn't enough. We need something closer to 8 or 9.
Getting Clemons and/or Abdullah back would go a long way towards making me feel better about passing on a safety in the draft. Signing Frostee Rucker, Pitoitua, or Carrington would make me feel good about passing on DL talent as well in the 1st-3rd. Then we can focus on WR, CB, and OLB in the first 3 rounds.

I think this WR class is too good for us to use a roster spot on another known FA commodity.

Friendo 02-24-2014 09:07 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Infidel Goat (Post 10450736)
I will pimp my Demon Deacon (maybe round 4)...

Mike Campanaro, Wake Forest
5'9", 192 lbs, 30" arms, 9 3/4" hands
Bench: 20 reps
40: 4.46 seconds
Vertical: 39.0"
Broad Jump: 122.0"
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.01 seconds

He can return punts and is a prototypical slot receiver.
I didn't watch enough of him, but the few times I did see him he was tough as whip-leather...probably a steal for someone...reminds me a little of another Deac WR who made a name for himself in the NFL.

BossChief 02-24-2014 09:36 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wilson8 (Post 10449794)
I think both Moncrief and Abbrederis could help the Chiefs, but I would prefer Abbrederis.

Donte Moncrief, Mississippi – 6 catch, 122 yards, 2 TD against Auburn. 5 catch, 107 yards against LSU. 7 catch, 149 yards, 1 TD. 6 catch, 115 yards against Missouri. 6 catch, 113 yards, 1 TD against Georgia Tech.

Jared Abbrederis – 10 catches, 207 yards, 1 TD against Ohio State’s Bradley Roby. 2 catches, 122 yards, 2 TDs against Massachusetts. 6 catch, 87 yards against Arizona State. 7 catch, 94 yards against Purdue. 8 catch, 106 yards against Illinois. 12 catch, 135 yards against Penn State. He had a total of 78 receptions, 1081 yards, and 7 TDs in 2013. He had 49 receptions, 837 yards, 5 TDs in 2012. Also, in 2012, 43 punt returns, 315 yards, 1 TD.
I really like Abbrederis. Textbook route runner with dependable hands.

He would be a PERFECT fit for our offense, too.

He would get a lot of balls thrown his way by Alex because he is so dependable.

BossChief 02-24-2014 09:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 10450867)
Ideally, the Chiefs will find some way to trade down.

6 picks isn't enough. We need something closer to 8 or 9.
Yeah. I've been screaming this for the last couple months.

This draft is gonna have some guys available in the late 5th/early 6th round that would be 3rd or 4th rounders in any other draft.

The depth of this class is just unreal.

I'm surprised so many underclass men declared. Some of them made big mistakes.

OldSchool 02-24-2014 10:05 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10451577)
Yeah. I've been screaming this for the last couple months.

This draft is gonna have some guys available in the late 5th/early 6th round that would be 3rd or 4th rounders in any other draft.

The depth of this class is just unreal.

I'm surprised so many underclass men declared. Some of them made big mistakes.
I want us to get Trai Turner at some point. If he had stayed in school, he has the physical ability and arm length to be a future 1st-2nd round OG. Projected in the 6th this year because of the depth of this draft class and how raw he is.

BossChief 02-24-2014 11:03 PM
Even without Albert, I think our line just needs shuffled and has the potential to be really good.

LT fisher
Lg Hudson
C Kush
RG Schwartz
RT Stephenson

That line has the makings of a really solid unit.

Chiefshrink 02-24-2014 11:32 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 10450107)
The thing with Cooks if you watch his tape, is he doesn't "look" like a Welker or Amendola type, doesn't play like a Dante Hall or Az-Zahir-Hakim type. Those guys, Welker included, had a specific way they used their bodies and caught the ball at different points on the field.

Cooks, on the other hand, is like a mixed bag. When he's outside the hash, he uses his body and catches the ball similar to Julio Jones, despite the immense size difference, its actually quite refreshing to watch, and I'm huge on Julio. Across the middle though, he plays like a Wayne Chrebet, which is high praise there.

I think in the right system with the right coaching with the right scheme, this kid could be absolutely dynamite!
Thanks for the added info. Sounds like a Steve Smith type as well.

OldSchool 02-25-2014 12:12 AM
Speaking of WRs, what's everyone's take on Martavis Bryant?

For me, great measurables, but I question his character & desire to become great. Only had one decent season.

saphojunkie 02-25-2014 10:29 AM
Look, there's a blazing fast WR from the state of Kansas named John Brown. How could I NOT want?

htismaqe 02-25-2014 10:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 10451568)
I really like Abbrederis. Textbook route runner with dependable hands.

He would be a PERFECT fit for our offense, too.

He would get a lot of balls thrown his way by Alex because he is so dependable.
This.

Frosty 02-26-2014 09:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Exoter175 (Post 10450107)
The thing with Cooks if you watch his tape, is he doesn't "look" like a Welker or Amendola type, doesn't play like a Dante Hall or Az-Zahir-Hakim type. Those guys, Welker included, had a specific way they used their bodies and caught the ball at different points on the field.

Cooks, on the other hand, is like a mixed bag. When he's outside the hash, he uses his body and catches the ball similar to Julio Jones, despite the immense size difference, its actually quite refreshing to watch, and I'm huge on Julio. Across the middle though, he plays like a Wayne Chrebet, which is high praise there.

I think in the right system with the right coaching with the right scheme, this kid could be absolutely dynamite!
Cooks broke the Combine record for the 60 yard shuttle and tied the Combine for the 20 yard shuttle. He also had a 36" vertical which was upper mid-pack. That doesn't sound that impressive until you realize that Cooks is one of the shorter WRs at the Combine. Watkins has 3" on him and 4" longer arms, yet had a 34" vertical. Cooks is fast and shifty. He can also go up and get the ball in traffic.

Compared to Tavon Austin last year (Cooks in red):

Tavon Austion, West Virginia
5'8", 174 lb., 30" arms, 9 1/8" hands
5'9 1/2", 189 lb., 30 1/2" arms, 9 5/8" hands
Bench: 14 reps
Bench: 16 reps
40: 4.34 seconds
40: 4.33 seconds
Vertical: 32.0"
Vertical: 36.0"
Broad Jump: 120.0"
Broad Jump: 120.0"
20 Yard Shuttle: 4.01 seconds
20 Yard Shuttle: 3.81 seconds


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