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In58men 09-01-2014 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 10871235)
Competitive? Their roster has about as much talent as a Sporting Chance bowling team. If they win more than 4 games this year, I'll dig up Joan Rivers' corpse and skull**** it.
Guarantee they win more than 4 games. They'll beat us this year.

Miles 09-01-2014 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins (Post 10871218)
I think they should have thrown Schaub to the wolves while Carr got a firmer grasp of the speed of the game and adjustments from the sidelines, then given him the job after the bye week.

Not the way I would have gone, but I understand the decision.
I'm guessing that was likely the plan before Schaub starting having elbow issues last week. Wouldn't surprise me if that had been around for a while given his arm strength completely declined later in the 2012 season and hasn't been the same since.

jd1020 09-01-2014 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 10871233)
Those gifs are everyday QB throws that Matt Cassel, Trent Green, Alex Smith, and Pete Stoyanovich could all make if they had more than 4 seconds in the pocket.
Meanwhile, Carr didn't need 4 seconds to make those throws.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2014 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 10871234)
If they don't improve significantly this year, it'll likely be Allen's last season as HC of the Raiders and Reggie McKenzie's last year as GM. That's probably why they aren't taking it slow with Carr; even though he's not quite ready yet, he does give them the best shot at winning some games this year. Allen is probably hoping that, even if they lose a lot, the FO will see enough growth from Carr to let Allen stay on for another season for the sake of continuity and growth with Derek Carr.
You make a good point, and it's an excellent reason why coaches and GMs cannot be trusted to act in the best interests of the team. They act in the best interests of their next paycheck.

CoMoChief 09-01-2014 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10871197)
I wanted Carr. I hope he is decent for the Raiders.


We need the AFC West to get better overall. It helps all the teams down the road to play against better competition.
dumb

we already play manning and rivers 2x each.

Just Passin' By 09-01-2014 05:14 PM
Schaub's got an elbow injury and has been missing practices. That made this an easy decision.

In58men 09-01-2014 05:14 PM
Manning

Rivers

Carr

Smith


In that order, mark it down.

GordonGekko 09-01-2014 05:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben N 58men (Post 10871237)
Guarantee they win more than 4 games. They'll beat us this year.
Lol while I applaud the chance they are taking with the rook, I was thinking this pretty much guarantees us both wins in the season.

'Hamas' Jenkins 09-01-2014 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Miles (Post 10871239)
I'm guessing that was likely the plan before Schaub starting having elbow issues last week. Wouldn't surprise me if that had been around for a while given his arm strength completely declined later in the 2012 season and hasn't been the same since.
You'd think the Raiders might be able to dig up one of the Athletics' team physicians from the sewage overflow in the Coliseum to take a look at Schaub's UCL before trading for him.

GordonGekko 09-01-2014 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10871240)
Meanwhile, Carr didn't need 4 seconds to make those throws.
It's ok, he is just trying to justify the band-aid Qb.

OldSchool 09-01-2014 05:17 PM
Rex Ryan is going to rape Derek Carr in his first career start, lol.

In58men 09-01-2014 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by GordonGekko (Post 10871249)
Lol while I applaud the chance they are taking with the rook, I was thinking this pretty much guarantees us both wins in the season.
Carr will be a monster

Hammock Parties 09-01-2014 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Bufkin (Post 10871233)
Those gifs are everyday QB throws that Matt Cassel, Trent Green, Alex Smith, and Pete Stoyanovich could all make if they had more than 4 seconds in the pocket.
Alex would probably toss both out of bounds.

On the second, Carr was pressured. Alex would have bailed out of the pocket and run off to the right like he usually does when he gets scared.

Bufkin 09-01-2014 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 10871240)
Meanwhile, Carr didn't need 4 seconds to make those throws.
I shouldn't have included the amount of seconds. Any quarterback who has played a snap of college football (regardless of what division) should be able to make those throws.

-King- 09-01-2014 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Ben N 58men (Post 10871226)
I wish we had that
His name is Tyler Bray. He dominates the 4th preseason game with the best of them also.


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