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cosmo20002 09-09-2014 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 10898248)
and?

Pretty sure a man hitting his spouse in his own home is no better than doing it in an elevator with a camera.

I mean, it kind of leaves no doubt having it on camera, actually witnessing it. Not much room for he said/she said.
Even a conviction leaves a little room for doubt or excuses. A video doesn't.

notorious 09-09-2014 07:00 PM

Concussions are going to slowly erode the NFL

Hootie 09-09-2014 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by cosmo20002 (Post 10898381)
I mean, it kind of leaves no doubt having it on camera, actually witnessing it. Not much room for he said/she said.
Even a conviction leaves a little room for doubt or excuses. A video doesn't.

Hey, I get it man. It was heinous. But I just fail to see a different between domestic assault caught on tape and domestic assault done in privacy.

LoneWolf 09-09-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 10898326)
It's because owners are supposedly held to a higher standard. Not saying it's right, just saying that that's the way it is.

Owners are in a position of power. They make decisions that effect people's lives both professionally and financially.

Riley Cooper is an average WR in the NFL. His racism doesn't have the far reaching effect that the owner of a billion dollar business does.

Rain Man 09-09-2014 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10898407)
Concussions are going to slowly erode the NFL

I'm actually thinking that, too. Not just concussions, but general health stuff. The players now make a ton of money and many aren't good at managing it. We'll start seeing arthritis lawsuits and spinal cord lawsuits and "didn't stop me from taking steroids" lawsuits because the ex-players will want to maintain a lifestyle. Eventually that'll kill the sport and it'll go back to the sandlots.

cosmo20002 09-09-2014 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 10898413)
Hey, I get it man. It was heinous. But I just fail to see a different between domestic assault caught on tape and domestic assault done in privacy.

I suppose the act itself is the same. But it makes it a lot easier to bring the hammer down for punishment if the thing is on video.

LoneWolf 09-09-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 10898413)
Hey, I get it man. It was heinous. But I just fail to see a different between domestic assault caught on tape and domestic assault done in privacy.

There isn't a difference. The reactions are what's different. Ray Rice would still be a piece of shit if there were no cameras. There would just be less people that know it.

TimBone 09-09-2014 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10898421)
Owners are in a position of power. They make decisions that effect people's lives both professionally and financially.

Riley Cooper is an average WR in the NFL. His racism doesn't have the far reaching effect that the owner of a billion dollar business does.

That's what I meant...you just said it better.

Hootie 09-09-2014 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf (Post 10898435)
There isn't a difference. The reactions are what's different. Ray Rice would still be a piece of shit if there were no cameras. There would just be less people that know it.

I guess I just don't see how the NFL can indefinitely suspend him for something they already suspended him for.

Oh actually I can.

The NFL did it to save face. There was no reason that they needed to suspend him indefinitely after he was cut. No team would have been dumb enough to even entertain the idea of signing him this year.

It was a ploy for the NFL to be able to say, "see, we do care about this!!!!"

And I hope Rice sues them over it. And I hope he wins.

thabear04 09-09-2014 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 10898175)
This wouldn't be such a big deal except that Josh Gordon got suspended for a year while rice got suspended for peanuts and you have to think the NFL knew about it. Goodell is a ****ing clown. It's almost like he spins a wheel to determine punishment.

When can we get Goodell fired.

chiefzilla1501 09-09-2014 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 10898413)
Hey, I get it man. It was heinous. But I just fail to see a different between domestic assault caught on tape and domestic assault done in privacy.

It's spelled hyenas

LoneWolf 09-09-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 10898447)
I guess I just don't see how the NFL can indefinitely suspend him for something they already suspended him for.

Oh actually I can.

The NFL did it to save face. There was no reason that they needed to suspend him indefinitely after he was cut. No team would have been dumb enough to even entertain the idea of signing him this year.

It was a ploy for the NFL to be able to say, "see, we do care about this!!!!"

And I hope Rice sues them over it. And I hope he wins.

This has been handled horribly by the NFL, but I don't hope Ray Rice sues the NFL and wins. That would allow him to profit from a situation where he beat his wife. Just because the NFL has handled this worse than Mohammed Ali carrying nitro glycerine, that doesn't mean Ray should profit.

Mennonite 09-09-2014 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 10898407)
Concussions are going to slowly erode the NFL


I agree. The NFL should spend some of their billions on researching (and publicizing) concussions/brain trauma in soccer.

lcarus 09-09-2014 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0 (Post 10898220)
Since the NFL altered Ray Rice's suspension I think every NFL player who has ever been convicted of domestic assault needs to be suspended indefinitely, though.

And every player in the future who is convicted of it. The players better pick their women right and treat them well. They could destroy a players career easily.

Mennonite 09-09-2014 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus (Post 10898634)
The players better pick their women right

It's hard to find one that can take a punch.


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