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Mr. Laz 09-01-2015 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan (Post 11697859)
4.3 40...Dude is slower than molasses

welp, so far Conley hasn't looked like a 4.3 guy.


Is that because he is thinking too much or is it because he sort of a track guy who's speed doesn't translate with pads on?

DJ's left nut 09-01-2015 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11697857)
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Dat and Wilson are so shrimpy, not sure they can survive regular catching

Albert Wilson is short, yes.

Shrimpy he ain't. He's a fairly squat, powerfully built guy. He's not a linebacker out there but as far as WRs go, he's built well.

I like Conley, but Wilson brings a lot to this offense. He can/will run more precise routes than Wilson due having the shorter stride length and thus being harder to knock off route. He also showed himself to be a damn tough WR; really willing to take hits to get into zones and get the ball last year.

Perhaps he's better suited to the slot long-term, but if he's our X this year, we'll be just fine.

prhom 09-01-2015 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11697875)
welp, so far Conley hasn't looked like a 4.3 guy.


Is that because he is thinking too much or is it because he sort of a track guy who's speed doesn't translate with pads on?

I haven't seen it in the game either. There must be some hesitation because he seems really unsure on returns. It's like he gets slower the closer he gets to defenders. I don't see any wiggle at all. Seems like the lanky fast guys can at least make one cut and make someone miss but he hasn't shown that ability so far.

Chiefnj2 09-01-2015 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11697875)
welp, so far Conley hasn't looked like a 4.3 guy.


Is that because he is thinking too much or is it because he sort of a track guy who's speed doesn't translate with pads on?

Track speed v. football speed. Conley did not play like a 4.3 guy at Georgia.

notorious 09-01-2015 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by prhom (Post 11697896)
I haven't seen it in the game either. There must be some hesitation because he seems really unsure on returns. It's like he gets slower the closer he gets to defenders. I don't see any wiggle at all. Seems like the lanky fast guys can at least make one cut and make someone miss but he hasn't shown that ability so far.

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11697903)
Track speed v. football speed. Conley did not play like a 4.3 guy at Georgia.

Uh-oh.


So we might be looking at a 3rd round Baldwin?

staylor26 09-01-2015 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11697906)
Uh-oh.


So we might be looking at a 3rd round Baldwin?

:facepalm:

O.city 09-01-2015 10:10 AM

His size just isn't going to allow him to be like a DAT in terms of looking quick.

Rausch 09-01-2015 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11697906)
Uh-oh.


So we might be looking at a 3rd round Baldwin?

He's fine.

In fact he's doing good. We just have a flood of reeruns here...

notorious 09-01-2015 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11697916)
He's fine.

In fact he's doing good. We just have a flood of reeruns here...

I hope so.


I remember all the hype that Baldwin had from CP, and when I saw him play he was slow as hell.

Some of the comments are similar.

RunKC 09-01-2015 10:13 AM

People obviously didn't watch the game. The guy drew a penalty bc he smoked the DB and he had no choice but to interfere with Conley.

ToxSocks 09-01-2015 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 11697912)
His size just isn't going to allow him to be like a DAT in terms of looking quick.

No one is comparing him to Dat. He might be 6-3", but he's only 210lbs, so it's not like he's a big receiver.

There's a reason he fell to the 3rd round. I think it's reasonable to discuss some of the tools he may be lacking that allowed a guy with outstanding measureables to slip that far.

It's far too early to say what kind of career he'll have and i hope he has a great one, but i think he lacks that suddenness that separates the good from the great.

staylor26 09-01-2015 10:15 AM

JFC We haven't even seen the guy run a go route and the one time he ran a fade he got behind he defender and drew a PI.

ToxSocks 09-01-2015 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11697923)
I hope so.


I remember all the hype that Baldwin had from CP, and when I saw him play he was slow as hell.

Some of the comments are similar.

Baldwin he is not, but i think i've seen enough to understand why he fell to the 3rd round.

notorious 09-01-2015 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 11697935)
Baldwin he is not, but i think i've seen enough to understand why he fell to the 3rd round.

Cool.


I guess if he turns into a 3-500 yard receiver a year that is good for a 3rd rounder. If he fails it's not that big of a loss.

ToxSocks 09-01-2015 10:21 AM

It's funny how people freak out the moment you stop worshiping the shrine of a fan favorite.

Guys, he's not perfect. IT'S OK.


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