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dls6501 10-24-2015 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11831876)
Perhaps, but the Dodgers are going to be in the playoffs every year because they can buy at least two front line starting pitchers for any particular year.

They drafted and developed Kershaw, then paid him. That is FAR different than saying they "bought" him.

Pitt Gorilla 10-24-2015 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dls6501 (Post 11831893)
They drafted and developed Kershaw, then paid him. That is FAR different than saying they "bought" him.

Agreed. But, they bought Greinke. They will buy someone this year and whenever they need someone. The Dodgers can outbid just about everyone for any pitcher they want.

Indian Chief 10-24-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11831898)
Agreed. But, they bought Greinke. They will buy someone this year and whenever they need someone. The Dodgers can outbid just about everyone for any pitcher they want.

It's true, but not many teams can do that. Yankees, Dodgers, Mets (but they won't), Phillies, Red Sox, and maybe the Angels. Plus, there is no guarantee it works. I understand it did for the Dodgers this year, but Washington fell on its face this year after breaking the bank for Scherzer. The Tigers just had to blow up their team after trying that strategy the last two years.

I think my original point still stands. Teams can, and do, pay big money for free agents. The two teams in the W.S. didn't.

Discuss Thrower 10-24-2015 02:13 PM

Funny thing about baseball being so unequal.

If you make something like 25 changes in the win/loss outcomes of the last 30 years of MLB playoffs (mostly the world series, but maybe two or three DS/CS slates were reversed), every team in the major leagues would have won a WS.


Can you say that about the NFL over the last 32 years?

dls6501 10-24-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 11831898)
Agreed. But, they bought Greinke. They will buy someone this year and whenever they need someone. The Dodgers can outbid just about everyone for any pitcher they want.

Saying the Dodgers "bought" Greinke is also incorrect. They traded for him.

BigRedChief 10-24-2015 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower (Post 11831958)
Funny thing about baseball being so unequal.

If you make something like 25 changes in the win/loss outcomes of the last 30 years of MLB playoffs (mostly the world series, but maybe two or three DS/CS slates were reversed), every team in the major leagues would have won a WS.


Can you say that about the NFL over the last 32 years?

A good team that gets hot in the playoffs can win the WS.

Usually the best teams are playing in the Super Bowl.

DaFace 10-24-2015 03:25 PM

While there's probably some truth to this, the reality is that the whole "Royals are good" and "Chiefs suck" thing is probably swaying opinions more than a tiny bit. If the Chiefs won the Super Bowl this year, this thread wouldn't exist.

007 10-24-2015 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy (Post 11831663)
Too bad no one saw the LCS due it being on backwater cable channels that have very little subscribers.

don't ****ing get me started!!!!!:cuss:

Mr. Laz 10-24-2015 03:37 PM

Is MLB really getting better or is it just Kansas City being better?

I would think that the many city think that the MLB is sucking shit right now.

Yankees,Boston,Philly,Detriot ...

GloucesterChief 10-24-2015 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11832088)
Is MLB really getting better or is it just Kansas City being better?

I would think that the many city think that the MLB is sucking shit right now.

Yankees,Boston,Philly,Detriot ...

As opposed to Chicago, Toronto, Houston, and Pittsburgh?

Discuss Thrower 10-24-2015 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 11832060)
A good team that gets hot in the playoffs can win the WS.

Usually the best teams are playing in the Super Bowl.

Yeah but notice how half the playoff slate in the NFL are the same 2-3 teams per conference every year..

chiefzilla1501 10-25-2015 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz (Post 11832088)
Is MLB really getting better or is it just Kansas City being better?

I would think that the many city think that the MLB is sucking shit right now.

Yankees,Boston,Philly,Detriot ...

I'm not a Royals fan. Don't get me wrong I'm rooting for them.

As I said in the op, the nfl is catering to fantasy football jerkoffs and favoring big markets. The mlb is not. The use of extreme defensive shifts has changed baseball for the better. It gives small market teams a chance and teams are playing solid team baseball. The mlb can change that at any time to satisfy casual fans who get boners over home runs. But they haven't yet.

chiefzilla1501 10-25-2015 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DaFace (Post 11832072)
While there's probably some truth to this, the reality is that the whole "Royals are good" and "Chiefs suck" thing is probably swaying opinions more than a tiny bit. If the Chiefs won the Super Bowl this year, this thread wouldn't exist.

Disagree. Every true nfl fan knows the product is getting a hell of a lot worse. I want to see balanced football. Not five offenses that can put up 45 points against a defense that's completely mismatched. I cringe every single time they make senseless rule changes designed to help quarterbacks who don't need any more help. And we all know these are happening because of fantasy football geeks and lame casual fans.

Believe it or not I grew up rooting for the Yankees. I didn't enjoy it when they started buying championships. This baseball is a hell of a lot more exciting.

NJChiefsFan 10-25-2015 08:50 AM

Wish I could find the link that showed that football is losing popularity amoun people 30 and under.

Baseball has really turned a corner. Even as a Yankee fan I love it. In the NFL you can go from a 1 win team to a playoff team, but SB teams are few and far between. MLB is actually the league where you can go from a weak team to a champion. Amazing how things change, although even in the early 2000's the MLB still had a ton of different winners.

milkman 10-25-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 11831866)
Sure is.

And that's a sport sans salary cap.

If you have a QB, you win in the NFL. Sure, you get a team like the Bengals, and Broncos, but Packers, Patriots are hands down going to the SB. It would take a miracle for both not to.

I don't agree with this.

The Patriots, in the AFC, are clearly the favorite because of coaching, talent, and history.

But Andy Dalton is playing at an elite level right now, and making plays in clutch moments.
His playoff history has been piss poor, but he's just into his prime, and his history won't dictate what he does moving forward.
This Bengal team can win in the playoffs if Dalton continues to play at this level.

In the NFC, the Pack are playing better defense than they have in some time, but the Cardinals and the Seahawks are still a threat, and they play great defense, though the Seahawks have faltered late in games this season.
They have good enough QBs in Palmer and Wilson, and the fact is, despite the stupid shit that zilla posts, defense still wins.


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