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-King- 11-05-2015 03:52 PM
I'd rather keep Smith than have Stafford honestly.

Stafford is absolutely terrible. Even in that 5000 yard year he was average. 75% of his career earnings should go to Calvin Johnson.

BigMeatballDave 11-05-2015 04:08 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11865634)
I'd rather keep Smith than have Stafford honestly.

Stafford is absolutely terrible. Even in that 5000 yard year he was average. 75% of his career earnings should go to Calvin Johnson.
Average? 5000 yards, 41 TDs, 63% passing and a 60 QBR is a bit better than average. I wouldn't trade picks for him, but I'd trade AS for him in a second.

Stafford basically had back to back 5000 yd seasons in 11 and 12.
CJ had about 1700 and 2000 yrds in those seasons. He played a big part, but no, not 75% worth.

-King- 11-05-2015 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11865661)
Stafford basically had back to back 5000 yd seasons in 11 and 12.
CJ had about 1700 and 2000 yrds in those seasons. He played a big part, but no, not 75% worth.
And at the times he wasn't catching passes, he was attracting so much attention that he might as well have been catching passes.

The thing to me is...Stafford like Smith hasn't shown the ability to win games by himself really. Maybe a game here and there but thats it. But he has shown a lot of ability to lose games by himself.

Rausch 11-05-2015 04:15 PM
MX+Y=B.

If any of those, ANY OF THEM, is a negative number the answer is no.

HELL THE **** NO.

The Franchise 11-05-2015 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11865665)
And at the times he wasn't catching passes, he was attracting so much attention that he might as well have been catching passes.

The thing to me is...Stafford like Smith hasn't shown the ability to win games by himself really. Maybe a game here and there but thats it. But he has shown a lot of ability to lose games by himself.
Matt Stafford has 14 4th quarter comebacks and 18 game winning drives. Not a point of argument....just stating a fact.

Deberg_1990 11-05-2015 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BigMeatballDave (Post 11865661)
Average? 5000 yards, 41 TDs, 63% passing and a 60 QBR is a bit better than average. I wouldn't trade picks for him, but I'd trade AS for him in a second.

Stafford basically had back to back 5000 yd seasons in 11 and 12.
CJ had about 1700 and 2000 yrds in those seasons. He played a big part, but no, not 75% worth.
Stats can lie especially yardage totals. Id like to know how much of that yardage was 'garbage time' yards. How much of it was just Stafford getting more attempts per game because Detroits running game generally sucked.

The Franchise 11-05-2015 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11865702)
Stats can lie especially yardage totals. Id like to know how much of that yardage was 'garbage time' yards. How much of it was just Stafford getting more attempts per game because Detroits running game generally sucked.
Hope you do that with every QB then.

-King- 11-05-2015 04:59 PM
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Matt Stafford has 14 4th quarter comebacks and 18 game winning drives. Not a point of argument....just stating a fact.
How many of those are necessitated by the fact that he threw multiple interceptions in the game?

Game winning drives and comebacks are a misleading stats to me because they don't account for what the player did in the 3 quarters prior.
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-King- 11-05-2015 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 11865702)
Stats can lie especially yardage totals. Id like to know how much of that yardage was 'garbage time' yards. How much of it was just Stafford getting more attempts per game because Detroits running game generally sucked.
The year he got 5000 yards I believe he had the most pass attempts in NFL history
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OctoberFart 11-05-2015 05:01 PM
Stafford would fit the KC profile great. Save you guys from drafting a QB since that is against he religion there.

The Franchise 11-05-2015 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 11865730)
How many of those are necessitated by the fact that he threw multiple interceptions in the game?

Game winning drives and comebacks are a misleading stats to me because they don't account for what the player did in the 3 quarters prior.
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So game winning drives only count when the defense lets you down? Or maybe it's just when the running game is shit?

Rausch 11-05-2015 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by OctoberFart (Post 11865735)
Stafford would fit the KC profile great. Save you guys from drafting a QB since that is against he religion there.
Nice try.

Not a b/u for NE or SF...

-King- 11-05-2015 05:15 PM
25 games with multiple interceptions. 40 games with 60% or less completion. He's not good.
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-King- 11-05-2015 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 11865737)
So game winning drives only count when the defense lets you down? Or maybe it's just when the running game is shit?
No I dont give people credit for cleaning up messes that they made .
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BigMeatballDave 11-05-2015 05:19 PM
LMAO @ King

Stafford is not as bad as you seem to think.


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