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Valiant 04-16-2016 11:41 AM

I dont think coming from a spread is a flaw anymore. Most of the nfl uses it now. Very few teams run their full back out there. Most spread the field and hope your qb can get the ball out quick enough. The most important thing now imo is pre snap read, then adjust call. But what holds that back is coaches like reid, who waste a lot of time getting call in.

The past rule changes are what increased the spread of the spread. The league has diminished the power of running backs. Personally if you have a decent stable like the chiefs. They need to splite the backfield with charles and ware/west. With kelce at the line. Maclin isolated and whatever speedster at slot you have trouble containing our speed and extra protection for smith. It allows both rb easier rb tosses our
outs.

would love to see them try. But reid could not call it. We would need smith to call it or convince trent green to come in and help call play plays.

O.city 04-16-2016 11:41 AM

I don't view never being taught something as a fatal flaw though. They can learn that stuff

Toby Waller 04-16-2016 12:09 PM

A fatal flaw is not looking handsome and/or not having a cool name.

milkman 04-16-2016 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Waller (Post 12181670)
A fatal flaw is not looking handsome and/or not having a cool name.

So, you can't be successful at QB with out looks and a cool name?

Bewbies 04-16-2016 12:17 PM

Accuracy is the only one that can't be taught.

But if I'm the one in charge of drafting/developing this guy the interviews and intelligence are probably the most important part of my evaluation.

milkman 04-16-2016 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bewbies (Post 12181679)
Accuracy is the only one that can't be taught.

But if I'm the one in charge of drafting/developing this guy the interviews and intelligence are probably the most important part of my evaluation.

That is not entirely true, as Tacoman pointed out earlier.

Accuracy issues cane be corrected in some cases by improving flawed footwork.

I think TK13 is spot on with his post.
It all starts with work ethic.

O.city 04-16-2016 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12181690)
That is not entirely true, as Tacoman pointed out earlier.

Accuracy issues cane be corrected in some cases by improving flawed footwork.

I think TK13 is spot on with his post.
It all starts with work ethic.

DJ and I have had this discussion before about accuracy. I think you can improve it in the margins, like a guy going from a b minus to a b in terms of accuracy.

But for the most part I think it's a you got it or you don't thing.

Direckshun 04-16-2016 01:14 PM

Accuracy. Injury history.

The biggest one for me is when a QB in college never had to hit small windows to complete passes. RG3 stands out as the clear cut example of that.

Toby Waller 04-16-2016 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 12181677)
So, you can't be successful at QB with out looks and a cool name?

Not to the major degree you cant.
I know you are going to pull out guys you think are ugly etc. That may have had a decent career in your opinion,
But the fact is there consistently aren't guys with names like Browning Nagle on a thrown

John Unitas
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Tom Brady
Russell Wilson
Drew Brees
Brett Favre
Terry Bradshaw
Aaron Rodgers
Kurt Warner
Steve McNair
Warren Moon
Cool names,solid sounding names,easily flowing names.
What about ugly Ben Roethlisberger?
His last name happens to be of a heritage that there is a majority population of in Pittsburgh or Pennsylvania.

Jets,Fitzpatrick -Irish name: new york has the most concentrated Irish population at 12.9%
Brady- Irish name: Boston has a 20.4 Irish population.(since these 2 teams are so relatively close together in the East, I'm sure thats helpful for fan interest)
Roethlisberger, swiss German name: yes there's a high swiss German,swiss/ German,Pennsylvania Dutch population in Pennsylvania.
The largest ethnic group in USA is German.
Steelers are one of the top 3 most popular,if not the most popular teams in America. I guess they were just lucky to get a guy with that last name,huh?

threebag 04-16-2016 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Waller (Post 12181670)
A fatal flaw is not looking handsome and/or not having a cool name.

http://cdn.makeagif.com/media/10-10-2013/4YBgh8.gif

Toby Waller 04-16-2016 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by threebag02 (Post 12181796)

and if anyone knows ugly,its you

Sweet Daddy Hate 04-16-2016 01:50 PM

Being chosen by Rex Ryan.

milkman 04-16-2016 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Waller (Post 12181764)
Not to the major degree you cant.
I know you are going to pull out guys you think are ugly etc. That may have had a decent career in your opinion,
But the fact is there consistently aren't guys with names like Browning Nagle on a thrown

John Unitas
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Tom Brady
Russell Wilson
Drew Brees
Brett Favre
Terry Bradshaw
Aaron Rodgers
Kurt Warner
Steve McNair
Warren Moon
Cool names,solid sounding names,easily flowing names.
What about ugly Ben Roethlisberger?
His last name happens to be of a heritage that there is a majority population of in Pittsburgh or Pennsylvania.

Jets,Fitzpatrick -Irish name: new york has the most concentrated Irish population at 12.9%
Brady- Irish name: Boston has a 20.4 Irish population.(since these 2 teams are so relatively close together in the East, I'm sure thats helpful for fan interest)
Roethlisberger, swiss German name: yes there's a high swiss German,swiss/ German,Pennsylvania Dutch population in Pennsylvania.
The largest ethnic group in USA is German.
Steelers are one of the top 3 most popular,if not the most popular teams in America. I guess they were just lucky to get a guy with that last name,huh?

What about the guys that were good looking with cool names that failed?

Bowser 04-16-2016 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toby Waller (Post 12181764)
Not to the major degree you cant.
I know you are going to pull out guys you think are ugly etc. That may have had a decent career in your opinion,
But the fact is there consistently aren't guys with names like Browning Nagle on a thrown

John Unitas
Dan Marino
Joe Montana
Steve Young
Tom Brady
Russell Wilson
Drew Brees
Brett Favre
Terry Bradshaw
Aaron Rodgers
Kurt Warner
Steve McNair
Warren Moon
Cool names,solid sounding names,easily flowing names.
What about ugly Ben Roethlisberger?
His last name happens to be of a heritage that there is a majority population of in Pittsburgh or Pennsylvania.

Jets,Fitzpatrick -Irish name: new york has the most concentrated Irish population at 12.9%
Brady- Irish name: Boston has a 20.4 Irish population.(since these 2 teams are so relatively close together in the East, I'm sure thats helpful for fan interest)
Roethlisberger, swiss German name: yes there's a high swiss German,swiss/ German,Pennsylvania Dutch population in Pennsylvania.
The largest ethnic group in USA is German.
Steelers are one of the top 3 most popular,if not the most popular teams in America. I guess they were just lucky to get a guy with that last name,huh?

http://i.imgur.com/3o5K3O2.jpg

Toby Waller 04-16-2016 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 12181849)

of course you use the character who was the idiot,trying to call me an idiot.
you are going to call the name and population research pure chance and luck of picking players?


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