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Rasputin 11-09-2016 03:44 PM

61-39 that leaves San Diego with 22 fans ouch that has got to hurt their stadium attendance.

ToxSocks 11-09-2016 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12543716)
Most tax projections are shall we say very optimistic about the amount of money the tax will actually bring in.

Not to mention the 5% tax people are paying on their hotels, and lets not forget that it is not only tourists and visitors that use hotels, is less money that can be spent on other goods and services in San Diego.

We're talking about a deal here in which once the Stadium is paid off, the hotel tax would go directly to the City's general fund.

A deal in which the Chargers are responsible for cost over runs.

The Chargers would still be paying rent to lease the building.

The Chargers would pay maintainance costs.

The Chargers would yield the profits from the 8 games a year they host there, but all other events would go directly to the city. The Stadium will be owned by the city.

The stadium was also designed to double up as an extension of the Convention Center, which has long been talked about for expansion.

The alternative is that you lose an NFL franchise.

Yeah, im sorry but the voters were reeruned here.

Like i said, one our towns in the county voted for a dead man to be their treasurer.....

Vegas_Dave 11-09-2016 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12543737)
We're talking about a deal here in which once the Stadium is paid off, the hotel tax would go directly to the City's general fund.

A deal in which the Chargers are responsible for cost over runs.

The Chargers would still be paying rent to lease the building.

The Chargers would pay maintainance costs.

The Chargers would yield the profits from the 8 games a year they host there, but all other events would go directly to the city. The Stadium will be owned by the city.

The stadium was also designed to double up as an extension of the Convention Center, which has long been talked about for expansion.

The alternative is that you lose an NFL franchise.

Yeah, im sorry but the voters were reeruned here.

Like i said, one our towns in the county voted for a dead man to be their treasurer.....

No kidding... a WAY better deal than the crap that us in Vegas are getting bamboozled with... and we didn't even get a say.

Buck 11-09-2016 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12543718)
Yup. I was shocked after talking to my wife and Sister in Law yesterday that they both were against Measure C because "They didn't want to pay taxes for a Billionaire's Stadium".

I went on an epic rant for like 15 minutes.....

The Chargers failed horribly to educate the voters.

If that's really what the people thought then ****.

I thought it was more about not giving an NFL owner a handout and hamstringing the tourism industry in San Diego.

Buck 11-09-2016 03:49 PM

Seeing as tourism is San Diego's #1 industry and that Hoteliers were against it, I'm not surprised it didn't pass. I thought it would have been closer to 50% though.

Apparently, the numbers were updated and it lost 57-43.

Discuss Thrower 11-09-2016 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12543502)
I really doubt the Chargers move to Los Angeles.

They can barely sell out games in San Diego. They'd have 50,000 no shows each week in the new stadium.

I suspect the Chargers stay at the Murph until 2020 and at that point, the Spanos family will either need to sell 49% of the team in order to pay for a new stadium or the NFL will outright force them to sell 100% of the team.

The other option would be to move north and share the 49ers new stadium in Santa Clara and rename the team as the East Bay Chargers or something like that. The Spanos family is from Stockton, so it would be a fit for them.

Fremont Chargers?

ToxSocks 11-09-2016 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Vegas_Dave (Post 12543745)
No kidding... a WAY better deal than the crap that us in Vegas are getting bamboozled with... and we didn't even get a say.

It's the best deal a city could ask for outside of some Stan Kronke treatment.

You know what our dumb**** mayor and council members would RATHER do?

Build a new stadium at the current location using the city's general fund, thus taxing San Diegans......backwards ass politicians man....

Instead of supporting an initiative that DOESN'T cost the tax payers, they support one that does....go figure....

ToxSocks 11-09-2016 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Buck (Post 12543753)
Seeing as tourism is San Diego's #1 industry and that Hoteliers were against it, I'm not surprised it didn't pass. I thought it would have been closer to 50% though.

Apparently, the numbers were updated and it lost 57-43.

Same. I never thought it'd get 67%, the required figure. But i thought they could could 50-55%, which would at the very least show an interest and bring the Chargers back to the negotiating table.

ClevelandBronco 11-09-2016 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 12543702)
Voting to not get ripped off in financing a stadium that will have a negative return on investment seems like the public knows what it is doing.

Truth

Chief Pagan 11-09-2016 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12543737)
We're talking about a deal here in which once the Stadium is paid off, the hotel tax would go directly to the City's general fund.

...

Yeah, im sorry but the voters were reeruned here.

Like i said, one our towns in the county voted for a dead man to be their treasurer.....

Ok. I don't know anything about this measure. But couldn't you just raise the hotel tax and have that go to the City in the first place? So if you sent that revenue to the Charger's owners, San Diego citizens are still paying more tax than they would/could otherwise.

Granted, for the 8 home games a year you might have a few more hotel rentals and there may be other upsides. Still smells like a subsidy to me.

Garcia Bronco 11-09-2016 06:54 PM

Wait until the next Bronco stadium comes up for vote. I'll be voting down any taxes for it's construction. **** you billionaires... (in my best Chris Tucker) you build and pay for your own shit! Leave the taxpayer out of it.

Mr_Tomahawk 11-09-2016 08:08 PM

Albuquerque Chargers


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jjchieffan 11-09-2016 10:46 PM

I wonder if St Louis would try to lure them? I'm sure that they would like to get an NFL team back.

ChiefsLV 11-10-2016 07:21 AM

I'm hoping the Raiders deal falls through and the Chargers move to Vegas instead.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-10-2016 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jjchieffan (Post 12544489)
I wonder if St Louis would try to lure them? I'm sure that they would like to get an NFL team back.

Not happening


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