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BryanBusby 01-02-2017 01:25 PM

They owe 69 million to fired coaches. They have the 2nd worst roster.

It's a shit job

ToxSocks 01-02-2017 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12656356)
Ian Rapoport

Frustration from #49ers coaches as it relates to GM Trent Baalke: He never talked to them. Never asked em what players they liked. Nothing.

Stay far away from this guy, Chris

?

Chris would be taking Baalke's job. This has no implications at all concerning Chris.

However, it's still an interesting tweet because Knowhomo was circulating a rumor that the Donks want Trent Baalke....

The Bad Guy 01-02-2017 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12656356)
Ian Rapoport

Frustration from #49ers coaches as it relates to GM Trent Baalke: He never talked to them. Never asked em what players they liked. Nothing.

Stay far away from this guy, Chris

Baalke got fired.

booger 01-02-2017 03:25 PM

I don't have a link but it's Alex Marvez from fox sports on his FB page basically says Ballard wants input on the HC hire. For a first time GM that may make some owners hesitate. From just a fan perspective with no inside knowledge I think he looks at Dorsey not leaving GB all those years until the right opportunity presented itself. But money talks and I think he would have no problem filling out a staff of scouts and football operation folks being well connected with plenty of those folks. Just a matter of if he has unrealistic wants in terms of control and who he has in mind as his HC besides Toub

DJ's left nut 01-02-2017 03:37 PM

That's an understandable request.

If you're a first time GM and the ownership puts in a 'veteran' head coach, you know you're little more than a director of player personnel. And worse, if that coach fails, you'll lose your job before he does.

I don't think it's a problem to at least say "look, if I'm coming here, I want to know who I'm working with and what's going to happen if it doesn't work out". That's a more than fair request for someone that's going to be sought after.

Ballard doesn't have the cache to just call his shot, but he's going to have his pick of jobs over the next year or two, IMO. And while I'm not sure he'll have the influence to say "I want you to hire THIS guy or I simply won't come", he may be able to say "hey, what's your short list?" and have genuine input as to the 5-6 strong candidates that are going to be looked at.

Rain Man 01-02-2017 03:55 PM

I don't want anybody on the Chiefs to leave. After half a dozen Super Bowls, yeah, then take your shot. But this team still has a lot of blank resume space to fill.

booger 01-02-2017 04:02 PM

Yep. And if you recall lovie and the Bucs job was his if he wanted it. They basically sold it to him that it's a carbon copy of KC with Dorse and Reid and he turned them down. Smart move with suspect ownership and Lovie he certainly knew very well. He's doing what he feels is best and waiting for the best fit and feel. Certainly can't blame him.

Also just a really smart hire from the get go by Dorsey. Ballard without looking his resume up was about a ten year area scout with one year promoted to director of pro scouting. Dorsey knows him from being in the division and like so many times it's brought up it's about relationships with people in the business. Doesn't have to be someone you worked with before but someone you can look at and say this guy has good relationships at the schools (he has ties to Texas and south in his area scouting day) and he's flat out very good at his job. So if he goes he will be missed but it will give someone else the chance to step up

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2017 04:41 PM

Everything coming out of SF and Buffalo today should severely limit the number of potential head coaches and GM's for both clubs.

As bad as the Bills have been (no playoff appearances since 1999), the 49ers gig is radioactive.

What great candidate would want to work in that environment?

booger 01-02-2017 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12656733)
Everything coming out of SF and Buffalo today should severely limit the number of potential head coaches and GM's for both clubs.

As bad as the Bills have been (no playoff appearances since 1999), the 49ers gig is radioactive.

What great candidate would want to work in that environment?

Yeah York is a young arrogant dipshit who knows nothing about football. That's how it appears to me anyway in my limited following of SF. Dude is in need of a Ron Wolf or Ernie Accorsi type consultant in his searches IMO. Seems to arrogant to go that route though

DJ's left nut 01-02-2017 04:48 PM

What a strange, strange interview with Doug Whaley today.

Whaley was my top choice way back when the Pioli hire was made, but I tell you what, he looked COMPLETELY out of his depth dealing with the media today. He looked so unprepared that it makes you question how seriously he takes any area of his responsibility.

It was just oddly unprofessional. Nobody that works in the NFL, let alone as one of the very few top executives in this league, should ever sit out there stammering for 40 minutes like that. That just reeks of hubris.

Yeah...I'm thinking I'd steer clear of Buffalo right now. The whole Rex Ryan era and the bizarre Doug Marrone thing (the guy pretty much set his coaching career on fire rather than stay in Buffalo) is a pretty lousy background to step into.

Titty Meat 01-02-2017 04:51 PM

My buddy out there says everyone thinks Caserio sp?/ McDaniel is the early favorite

Titty Meat 01-02-2017 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bad Guy (Post 12656244)
I wouldn't take the SF job if I was Ballard.

Jed York is a ****. He's a meddling **** who couldn't keep an all-world coach and basically forced him out.

Seems like a great job for a GM. The last one should have been fired 3 years ago.

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12656744)
What a strange, strange interview with Doug Whaley today.

Whaley was my top choice way back when the Pioli hire was made, but I tell you what, he looked COMPLETELY out of his depth dealing with the media today. He looked so unprepared that it makes you question how seriously he takes any area of his responsibility.

It was just oddly unprofessional. Nobody that works in the NFL, let alone as one of the very few top executives in this league, should ever sit out there stammering for 40 minutes like that. That just reeks of hubris.

Yeah...I'm thinking I'd steer clear of Buffalo right now. The whole Rex Ryan era and the bizarre Doug Marrone thing (the guy pretty much set his coaching career on fire rather than stay in Buffalo) is a pretty lousy background to step into.

The only explanation, and this is a reach, is that Whaley wants to be fired.

I mean, the ****ing guy called out the owners, of which, Kim Pegula has too much power.

Marrone proved in just two games that Gus Bradley was severely overmatched as a head coach and honestly, if I was an NFL owner, never hire him as a DC. They have lots of talent in Jax but under performed on both sides of the ball.

Titty Meat 01-02-2017 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 12656758)
The only explanation, and this is a reach, is that Whaley wants to be fired.

I mean, the ****ing guy called out the owners, of which, Kim Pegula has too much power.

Marrone proved in just two games that Gus Bradley was severely overmatched as a head coach and honestly, if I was an NFL owner, never hire him as a DC. They have lots of talent in Jax but under performed on both sides of the ball.

Would you offer Marrone the HC position?

DaneMcCloud 01-02-2017 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12656750)
My buddy out there says everyone thinks Caserio sp?/ McDaniel is the early favorite

Both men would be fools to take those jobs.

Hell, O'Brien may be out in Houston and Rick Smith should definitely go. Considering they're already in the "Patriots Way" mode, they make much more sense there than in SF.

SF is a cluster**** and probably a worse gig than Cleveland.


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