Gus Bradley won't be out of work long. Still surprised he couldn't get all that defensive talent in Jacksonville to gel.

Still a huge Bradley fan.

I think he'll turn around a D somewhere and get another shot. Maybe he never puts it together but I think he's a hell of a coaching talent.

JFC does Chuck Pagano have to go 0-16 before Irsay finally fires him?

You have Andrew Luck as your QB and you play in a division that was just won a by a team rotating between Brock Assmuncher and Tom Savage at QB.

The talk around town was that he lost the locker room early in the year and once he canned the Offensive Coordinator people lost faith in him.

And some of the players seemed like they wanted to "run the team". One that some people point out is Allen Robinson and his Marshawn Lynch impersonation the first of December.

Then there was the October incidents of the players taking to social media to criticize the fans. The players were expressing their displeasure at the fans for booing during one of the home games. (The Jags were 2-5 at the time)

A top 5 qb? I don't think so.

Top 5 qbs don't do things he does. It's not just losing games, he's in a bad situation sure. But they lose games because he throws alot of interceptions.

Some guys just aren't head coaches. It's so much more than scheme at that point. Bradley seems like a great dc, poor HC to me.

I tend to think Haley is the same, but I'm not sure either say on him

Remember Manning and the Colts went though some growing pains and struggles early in his career after some initial success under Jim Mora.

I think the right HC/offensive coaching staff will win big with Andrew Luck.

I liked Bradley....seemed like a great guy. But to me he is the Defensive equivalent of Todd Haley in that he is not a great offensive mind.

If you put Todd Haley in as the Head Coach and made Bradley his Defensive Coordinator that might be scary. Bradley's low key persona would offset Haley's more fiery personality.

Pagano is terrible. He is a players coach and builds strong relationships with his teams, but sadly I think the sympathy he received while battling cancer clouded peoples estimations of him as a head coach. Gets outschemed every game and fails to address roster problems that stare him in the face. It is apparent many players enjoy playing for him though....

Pagano wore out his tragedy card awhile ago.

He's just not a good coach and has been dealt the hand of a shitty manager. Luck is good yes, but the hype with him coming out was too much and he had expectations that are hard as hell to meet.

I could see McDaniels getting interest from Indy, should the fire Pagano. And, I don't want Chuck in Denver, I think he's lame.

One rumor for Denver was Vance Joseph, and I could be mistaken... think he is who they wanted before Kubiak agreed. I can't recall. *edit* Sounds like they wanted him to replace Del Rio a few years ago and Cincy said no.

Is Andrew Luck more Brett Favre than Tom Brady?

Could he evolve into the latter?

Luck makes some truly incredible plays but he absolutely makes some head scratchers that cost his team ballgames. Both guys are QBs that you'd love to have but there's a definite tier there. You can and most likely will win a championship with Brett Favre at some point in a full career but you're a clear favorite every year with Brady (or Manning when Manning was at his peak).

Luck's just a little too aggressive; a little too risky sometimes. And this has become a league designed to trick you; to fool you into that critical mistake. That's what's going to make the Pats such a brutal matchup, especially for the Chiefs. They're not going to give us 2-3 turnovers. I'd honestly be surprised if we grab a single turnover from them. Brady's just too damn smart.

Luck has a step to take before he gets there. He can be fooled. And he's not a young man anymore. Alex Smith came to KC for his age 29 season - Andrew Luck will be in his age 28 season next year. There's a good chance that we've seen the peak of Luck's evolution.

Aaron Rodgers can mask a shitload of deficiencies and make his team good. Brady can as well. Hell, Wilson's done that this year. Can Luck? Maybe...but maybe not.

Sure, it's a bit of a 'hot take' but there's a real question to be asked there.

Luck and the Colts are interesting... 11-5 during the first 3 years, and 8-8 the last 2 years.

Pagano needs to go - he's maxed out what he can do there and they need to flip the script before Luck is Rivers.

They are in a division they should own for a decade, lost out last year with Luck's injury and this year because of ineptitude and lack of heart.

They may have lost the driver's seat to the Titans.

The Titans looked like a growing young squad that was flat out better than the Colts for parts of last season and with a top 5 pick and another in the top 20, they could be poised to take another big step forward.

The Titans look like they're headed in a positive direction. The Colts, OTOH, employ Ryan Grigson. The only advantage the Colts have on anybody on that division anywhere in that organization is Andrew Luck.

And when you'r worse everywhere else, I think it's difficult to claim dominion over the division. I don't think they'll get that traction back.

IIRC, the Tits have alot of cap space too. Could really build something nice there with an addition of a few WR's and some DBs.

I think they'd be a team that would be heavy in on EB if he hits FA as well.