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Rausch 01-15-2017 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12689208)
TOP is decided by offensive and defensive efforts combined.

The offense went three and out like 5-6 times straight at one point in time.

Blame for this loss: 94% offense, 4% special teams (specifically return units), 2% defense.

I agree with almost all of this.

Pitt was smart in negating Hill's ST's touches. It's on Andy to make up for that with the offense.

The offense was open and attacking the 1st drive and then went tight-butthole. In the second half when we opened it back up dropped passes, penalties, and missed opportunities by Alex killed us.

The defense held the most dangerous offense in the league to kicking FG's. 18 pts. That's a win. A HUGE win.

This is not on the D...

OldSchool 01-15-2017 11:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 12689154)
It was a very Chiefs game.

WR's dropping passes.

Wide open WR's deep and Alex not ever noticing.

Penalties marching us backward and forcing long 3rd down conversions.

These problems have happened all season long, continued tonight, and are exactly why we lost...

Don't forget the shit sideways plays that only work once or twice all season long but keep getting called because Reid thinks that they're the same as running plays.

OldSchool 01-15-2017 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 12689208)
TOP is decided by offensive and defensive efforts combined.

The offense went three and out like 5-6 times straight at one point in time.

Blame for this loss: 94% offense, 4% special teams (specifically return units), 2% defense.

Offense had 3 3 and outs in the game.

Defense only forced 1 punt the entire game and allowed Pitt to score on all but 2 of their possessions prior to them running the clock out.

To say that defense only deserves 2% of the blame is asinine.

chiefzilla1501 01-15-2017 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 12689021)
Givng up a score on every drive, allowing them to win TOP and forcing one ****ing punt is Excellent? Are you and Sutton ****ing?


I was nervous as shit about the defense going into the game, not the offense. The defense is was playing Ramik Wilson, Jenkins, and Reyes for **** sake. Against an OL that has been outrageously good this year. Against a RB who's been popping 100+ yard games like it's clockwork.

They gave up 16 points against an outstanding Steelers offense. So you'd prefer if they gave up 30 points but forced 2 or 3 more punts?

They played a much better game than expected. Your hate for Sutton is so confusing.

petegz28 01-15-2017 11:06 PM

I don't care what the defense did, etc. You don't have your best pass rusher covering the best NFL WR period. On any down. Let alone key 3rd downs. It's just plain ****ing stupid.

Sandy Vagina 01-15-2017 11:07 PM

so Houston. yeah.. will he ever be good again?

asking for a friend.

tk13 01-15-2017 11:08 PM

The defense played much better in the 2nd half. They were pretty rough in the first half though. 275 yards is terrible, any way you cut it.

A forgotten disadvantage to not getting Pittsburgh's offense off the field is they didn't have to punt to Hill.

The one time they did, we had our best field position of the night. Helped neutralize our best weapon.

TimBone 01-15-2017 11:08 PM

I agree with the OP. Also, on the big play to Bryant in the beginning of the game, was that a mistake, or was it designed for Houston to cover Bryant one on one?

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-15-2017 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 12688887)
Bob Sutton wasn't coordinating an offense that only had 230 total yards against a Pittsburgh defense starting 3 rookies.

Wonder what your explanation will be when they punish Brady next week

OldSchool 01-15-2017 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by TimBone (Post 12689476)
I agree with the OP. Also, on the big play to Bryant in the beginning of the game, was that a mistake, or was it designed for Houston to cover Bryant one on one?

No idea what Sutton is thinking on those, honestly. It's reeruned.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-15-2017 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12688945)
Are you ****ing serious? Your hate for Sutton is maddening. Defense didn't lose us this game today. They played overall excellent against an outstanding offense

When the clock is being drained down (Pitt had the ball 35 minutes) and your defense gives up 6 scores, how is that good defense? Red zone defense is just one aspect of the game. But the fact that they allowed 170 yards on the ground to one player is a joke. No team is going to win the Lombardi with that kind of defense.

Coach 01-15-2017 11:10 PM

Honestly, I would had gone all out blitz, leaving man to man coverage on everyone. If I'm down, 3rd and 5, I'd rather go down fighting than being passive.

ThaVirus 01-15-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool (Post 12689436)
Offense had 3 3 and outs in the game.

Defense only forced 1 punt the entire game and allowed Pitt to score on all but 2 of their possessions prior to them running the clock out.

To say that defense only deserves 2% of the blame is asinine.

Hah. This is funny.

5 plays. 16 yards. Punt.

3 plays. 10 yards. Interception.

3 plays. 3 yards. Punt.

3 plays. 22 yards. Fumble.

3 plays. -1 yard. Punt.

Those drives were sequential. And the drive after that -1 yard leading to a punt also led to a punt after 7 plays and 29 yards.

To say this offense blew dicks would be a supreme understatement.

TigeRRUppeRRcut 01-15-2017 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach (Post 12689516)
Honestly, I would had gone all out blitz, leaving man to man coverage on everyone. If I'm down, 3rd and 5, I'd rather go down fighting than being passive.

Seriously.

chiefzilla1501 01-15-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12689515)
When the clock is being drained down (Pitt had the ball 35 minutes) and your defense gives up 6 scores, how is that good defense? Red zone defense is just one aspect of the game. But the fact that they allowed 170 yards on the ground to one player is a joke. No team is going to win the Lombardi with that kind of defense.

The chiefs didn't lose because of time of possession.
16 points was not a big hurdle at all
Allowing 170 yards on the ground to the best RB in the league when you're down almost your entire DL and LB is not something to be ashamed of

I am more pissed at our offense, who had a fully stacked deck completely shitting the bed tonight in all aspects of the game. I'm not going to get hung up on a defense that played gritty with what half a deck against an outstanding offense.


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