Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12691812)

Dorsey has been incredible at finding talent.

But he got one thing very wrong. Enough with trying to surround Andy Reid and Alex Smith with offensive talent. We need to load up and build a powerhouse defense.

It seems like every time this team takes a haircut, they ask Bob Sutton to do more with less. Sign Berry. Sign Poe. Cut Charles. Sign Mitchell. Bring in ILBs. Unless we get a steal, we should not make a single move on offense except trying to find our QBOTF.

Originally Posted by BossChief (Post 12691860)

Berry is going to be a Falcon.

Originally Posted by KranzDictum (Post 12691866)

Is Dorsey coming back? I heard the Packers were interested in him as their GM. Is that true?

Originally Posted by TripleThreat (Post 12691778)

I love eric berry, and im sure ill get shit for this beacuse of all the wonderful things he did for us this season, but I honestly think Poe is more valuable than Berry, when people go comparing them.. Not only is Poe 2 years younger, Im also a firm believer that the front 7, or in other words D-Line, is what makes a secondary great. You could have the best DB's/Safetys in the world, but if you dont have a Line that can apply pressure or close up the gaps, your "best" safety's and DB's in the world will get eaten up alive by the better QB's in this league....

If there is a way we can keep both Poe and Berry sign me up, However I still believe Poe is the better one to sign long term, and let Berry go try and win a ring on a different contender.

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 12691806)

Poe is just a fatty in the middle. He's nothing special. You can get the same production from any 4th rounder

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12691883)

I like Poe quite a bit. But if he's expensive, Jaye Howard has done fine in the Nose Tackle role, and Howard isn't that expensive.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 12691812)

Dorsey has been incredible at finding talent.

But he got one thing very wrong. Enough with trying to surround Andy Reid and Alex Smith with offensive talent. We need to load up and build a powerhouse defense.

It seems like every time this team takes a haircut, they ask Bob Sutton to do more with less. Sign Berry. Sign Poe. Cut Charles. Sign Mitchell. Bring in ILBs. Unless we get a steal, we should not make a single move on offense except trying to find our QBOTF.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12691881)

The front 7 just gave up 170 yards on the ground. Poe did nothing to change that. They were pushed around in the first meeting as well, and that was with a healthy DJ.

Maybe it's the back issues, but Poe has been underwhelming two seasons in a row now, while Berry has been a freakin' all star.

Im all for keepin' Poe. I think he's a good player. GREAT player he is not. He's a +starter, not replacement level, not a JAG....but not an All Pro either.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12691881)

The front 7 just gave up 170 yards on the ground. Poe did nothing to change that. They were pushed around in the first meeting as well, and that was with a healthy DJ.

Maybe it's the back issues, but Poe has been underwhelming two seasons in a row now, while Berry has been a freakin' all star.

Im all for keepin' Poe. I think he's a good player. GREAT player he is not. He's a +starter, not replacement level, not a JAG....but not an All Pro either.

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12691909)

Listen I'm all for Berry staying bc he's the leader of the team, but be honest here.

Berry got torched again by a TE in the playoffs and played really bad coverage.

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 12691928)

Berry got beat on one play that i can recall, in which the whole freaking defense bit hard. At the end of the day, it didn't matter much since he took the ball right back with an All-Pro fingertip interception.

Berry is a great player. Great players aren't invincible. They're going to get beat from time to time.

I don't recall this "really bad coverage". The entire night Ben was dinking and dunking off the play action pass, had ALLLL day to throw, and the defense was ran on all night.

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut (Post 12692239)

He failed to help Houston with Antonio Brown. Watch the replay, it is so bad how far off he was from ANY receiver. Very obvious who we he needed to help.