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notorious 03-11-2017 06:43 AM

I literally looks like another planet where the fires were. This is insanity.

HonestChieffan 03-11-2017 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 12778946)
I literally looks like another planet where the fires were. This is insanity.


Was checking on some friends yesterday.

The impact is longer term than many understand. The rainfall in those areas is on average 14 inches a year or less and the native grasses are all slow growing and can be difficult to reestablish. In addition its light soils so wind erosion is now in play that also hampers revegetation. As a result grazing will be non existent for some as long as 3-5 years.

There will be a lot learned from this from an agronomic standpoint. But the economic impact on those producers will be devastating.

Reerun_KC 03-11-2017 10:14 AM

I have some shots of where the fires where in the Panhandle of OK, but I cant get them to upload. Is there a file size limit?

Buehler445 03-11-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 12779102)
Was checking on some friends yesterday.

The impact is longer term than many understand. The rainfall in those areas is on average 14 inches a year or less and the native grasses are all slow growing and can be difficult to reestablish. In addition its light soils so wind erosion is now in play that also hampers revegetation. As a result grazing will be non existent for some as long as 3-5 years.

There will be a lot learned from this from an agronomic standpoint. But the economic impact on those producers will be devastating.

Yeah I think there is a pretty good chance the grass isn't dead, but it needs water right damned now. I don't know much about the soils down there, but if they get to blowing the grass will die.

I had a field I had just bought catch fire in 2013 and I still don't have the burned are up to production with the rest of the field yet. And I've managed the ever living shit out of it. That made it one expensive ass piece of ground. :banghead:

Buehler445 03-11-2017 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 12779106)
I have some shots of where the fires where in the Panhandle of OK, but I cant get them to upload. Is there a file size limit?

Just use imgur

HonestChieffan 03-11-2017 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12779108)
Yeah I think there is a pretty good chance the grass isn't dead, but it needs water right damned now. I don't know much about the soils down there, but if they get to blowing the grass will die.

I had a field I had just bought catch fire in 2013 and I still don't have the burned are up to production with the rest of the field yet. And I've managed the ever living shit out of it. That made it one expensive ass piece of ground. :banghead:

My range Science guys have been checking and this was a bit different than past big range fires. A lot more fuel because last year was a relatively wet year. And soils were warming and already dry. A lot of the native grass is likely dead. Thats a bad bad deal as you know. The cheat and invasives will come fast.

Reerun_KC 03-11-2017 10:23 AM

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Reerun_KC 03-11-2017 10:26 AM

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Reerun_KC 03-11-2017 10:27 AM

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Reerun_KC 03-11-2017 10:30 AM

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Buehler445 03-11-2017 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 12779116)
My range Science guys have been checking and this was a bit different than past big range fires. A lot more fuel because last year was a relatively wet year. And soils were warming and already dry. A lot of the native grass is likely dead. Thats a bad bad deal as you know. The cheat and invasives will come fast.

Hopefully they're wrong. If the natives are dead that will be catastrophic.

displacedinMN 03-11-2017 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan (Post 12779116)
My range Science guys have been checking and this was a bit different than past big range fires. A lot more fuel because last year was a relatively wet year. And soils were warming and already dry. A lot of the native grass is likely dead. Thats a bad bad deal as you know. The cheat and invasives will come fast.

As in "dead below the growing point?" Ugh!

HonestChieffan 03-11-2017 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 12779309)
Hopefully they're wrong. If the natives are dead that will be catastrophic.

part of the Colorado burn its confirmed, I have no doubt a high % on some parcels in KS will be as well.

HonestChieffan 03-11-2017 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by displacedinMN (Post 12779313)
As in "dead below the growing point?" Ugh!

yes....on some natives the true growing point is pretty high above the root nodes so its vulnerable in just right conditions. Its an ugly prospect for a period of time. For sure no grazing will take place

Chiefspants 03-11-2017 03:32 PM

I'm a dumbass. Can anyone explain the consequences for what would happen if the native grasses were dead?


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