And Dane pegged this 4 months ago when he said that Watson's ceiling was Tyrod. I kinda pinched my chin and nodded a bit when I read that, but didn't give it much more thought than that.

As draft season has continued, it looks positively prescient. He's Tyrod Taylor without the good sense to realize when he shouldn't be throwing it. Doesn't that just kinda make him a taller, less doucherockety Johnny Manziel?

:facepalm:

Making excuses already

No, not really. Just looking for discussion.

If he has to dial a throw down that much to make it accurately, isn't that just as damning as the possibility that he doesn't throw it much harder than that?

I'm not convinced that 49 mph is as hard as he can possibly throw because jesus, most decent HS quarterbacks can throw harder than that.

But I'm worried that in a situation where he knew he was on the radar, that was what he put forward. Why? And if nothing else, doesn't that tell you that he doesn't have the 'easy velocity' that you see from the truly elite guys? For instance, when they're talking about his release on those passes, how much zip is he actually getting on those? If he throws 49 when he dials it down to the .35 seconds, it doesn't do you a ton of good; you give back the gains. And if he's at .60 when he tries to rifle it at 53, you're equally boned.

But someone who just naturally snaps the ball off (i.e. Mahomes) is going to look great in all those drills.

That's why I say that the SS clip just isn't comprehensive enough. What's the respective velocities on their quickest release times. What's the respective release times on their quickest throws? Or deepest throws? We really learned absolutely nothing from that and that's fairly disappointing.

But we still know that on a timed throw, Watson did exceptionally poorly and like it or not, there's a reason there. We may not know what it is, but it cannot possibly be a good thing.

Surprised me that Kizer got it out in .36 seconds. Dude needs to work on his mechanics though.