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pugsnotdrugs19 08-27-2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 13695625)
We really need Houston to be a star this year. I do think that he's finally getting back into top form, but we need that.

He and Ford combined for like 50 snaps in the preseason. Definitely didn't help the pass rush look as good, one would think.

Coochie liquor 08-27-2018 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13695623)
I'm down with a Jones-Nnadi-Williams base defensive line. I think they'd keep our ILBs clean all day.

I’m pretty pumped for Nnadi. I think he’s gonna be special and will be a big contributor by seasons end.

pugsnotdrugs19 08-27-2018 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13695628)
The fact that we're hanging our hopes on 2-3 people who were cut by other teams becoming difference-makers for us - just to perhaps be able to field a mediocre defense - really says a lot

I don't think those 2-3 players make them mediocre, or good, or bad necessarily. I think that those players though could be better than what we have at say CB3 or safety, and so if you can acquire upgrades, why not?

It is my personal belief that the defense will look better week one because they will actually 'show their cards', so to speak. Press coverage, blitzes, etc. All starters playing, ideally, for a full game.

If those things don't happen, well... it'll be a shit show. All season.

Simply Red 08-27-2018 06:00 PM

seems we always panic in P/S - this year more so - but for what seems to be good reasons.

Chiefshrink 08-27-2018 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 13695516)
Hell, based on our D talent I'll go out on a limb and say the only upset (by Vegas) will be Pitt all year. Yes, I think we'll shoot our whad on the Pitt game.

Pitt has our number and Mahomes won't get any time to pass regardless of Shazier's absence. Pitt's D-line owns our o-line period.

Chiefshrink 08-27-2018 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Simply Red (Post 13695664)
- but for what seems to be good reasons.

Definition of insanity. Expecting different results when nothing has changed and has actually gotten worse. You are correct.

Chief Roundup 08-27-2018 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13695481)

Secondary

Nelson (CB)
Fuller (CB)
Berry (S)
Murray (S)


Front seven

Ragland (ILB)
Hitchens (ILB)
Houston (OLB)
Ford(OLB)
Bailey (DE)
Jones (DE)
Williams (DT)

That is our base defense. We will spend most of our time in Nickel which will be more like.
Secondary

Nelson (CB)
Fuller (CB)
Amerson (CB)
Berry (S)
Murray (S)

Front seven

Hitchens (ILB)
Houston (OLB)
Ford/Kpass (OLB)
Bailey (DE)
Jones (DE)
Williams (DT)

Now how do you feel about the starting defense?

O.city 08-27-2018 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13695628)
The fact that we're hanging our hopes on 2-3 people who were cut by other teams becoming difference-makers for us - just to perhaps be able to field a mediocre defense - really says a lot

Meaningful snaps doesn’t equal difference maker

TEX 08-27-2018 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eleazar (Post 13695628)
The fact that we're hanging our hopes on 2-3 people who were cut by other teams becoming difference-makers for us - just to perhaps be able to field a mediocre defense - really says a lot

We have that now if you think about it.

UChieffyBugger 08-27-2018 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 13695693)
That is our base defense. We will spend most of our time in Nickel which will be more like.
Secondary

Nelson (CB)
Fuller (CB)
Amerson (CB)
Berry (S)
Murray (S)

Front seven

Hitchens (ILB)
Houston (OLB)
Ford/Kpass (OLB)
Bailey (DE)
Jones (DE)
Williams (DT)

Now how do you feel about the starting defense?

Amerson is the fourth cb according to reports from practice today, feel better? :D

ILChief 08-27-2018 07:59 PM

Imagine replacing Amerson with Peters. Oh wait, we had that

Chief Roundup 08-27-2018 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13695817)
Amerson is the fourth cb according to reports from practice today, feel better? :D

No Scandrick is no better in reality.

NJChiefsFan 08-27-2018 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by UChieffyBugger (Post 13695546)
Too many cry babies kept moaning, so I toned it down a little :D

The reason to point that out isn't to complain. It's to keep a conversation about the defense in 1 thread instead of breaking it apart. It waters down the conversation. Now a great point about the defense needs to be repeated 3 times in each thread.

There is nothing wrong with your point. Whether I agree or not you at least backed it up with something. But your need to have the thought be seen by everyone is breaking up the conversion that was already happening in another thread.

NJChiefsFan 08-27-2018 08:33 PM

One problem with this particular on paper argument is that it only shows 2 corners. In today's NFL we all know you better be looking at 3 corners minimum to judge your secondary with how often they will be out there. Really need to look at 4.

Pasta Little Brioni 08-27-2018 09:34 PM

ROFL at freaking out over preseason. It's stupid.


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