I don’t think Andy was in a particularly great spot there. Let’s say we go for it. We score a td. We all but guarantee cincy gets the last possession.

I think Reid’s hope was that we could get the ball one last time on offense. If we make that fg the bengals last drive looks entirely different. They’d be way more aggressive and give us a way better shot at getting the ball back. Hell, we could gift them a touchdown just so we can get the ball back if the drive wasn’t looking great.

Agreed on all of it. McKinnon may have had to break a tackle. And yeah somebody was coming open as pat was stepping up.

He definitely wasn't in a great spot either way. That was the cost of Kelce's crushing fumble in that game, we were probably going to lose once that happened the way our defense was playing. But kicking a 55 yard FG for a tie game against Joe Burrow with 3 minutes to go simply isn't the percentage play there.

The best option was to go for it on 4th down, try to get a TD on that drive, go up by 4, and force Cincy to beat you with a TD.

Yeah, I would have gone for it but I don’t think it’s the slam dunk everyone is making it to be. There’s a lot to like about the FG strategy IF we make the field goal. I think it was our best way to get the ball back and I’d gladly put the ball into mahomes hand instead of the defenses.

But i get going for it. That would have been my preferred move. To your point I 100% agree that it’s more about the fumble putting us in a bad spot.

agree. and I think he went with the odds being better we would get 3 + 1 more possession. rather than try for a 4th and 3 and let time tick.

tough spot. but going for it wasn't the no brainer everyone says, totally agree

There was 3 minutes left in the game. Why would he think a FG there would get us the ball back?

And why would the Bengals be aggressive with 3 minutes left, 3 timeouts and needing only a FG to win? They'd just keep their regular game plan and try to bleed the clock as much as possible.

I don't think anyone is saying the 4th down conversion is a slam dunk, but of the other things that could happen...

- Make a FG, defense needs to stop the Bengals from a handful of first downs in 3 minutes, kicking a FG and ending the game

- Miss a FG, defense needs to stop the Bengals from a few first downs and ending the game.

- Don't convert on 4th down, defense needs to stop the Bengals from a few first downs and ending the game.


You're just not helping your cause much, besides the extra ~20 yards... and you know at that point, the Bengals would be going for it on every 4th down as well with less than 3 minutes left (unless maybe they went 3 and out).

You might as well take your chances and go for it.

I don't know what game Andy Reid was watching, but the correct play was going for it on 4th down. That pathetic excuse of a defense we were fielding wasn't going to stop a damn thing, especially with the amount of time left on the clock.

At the very least, you kick a field goal later in the drive after burning away a good portion of the clock and force overtime. We already saw how things would've played out if they failed on 4th down.

Hindsight is 20/20 and all, but I will argue all day that the tea leaves necessitated us going for it.

With 3:19 and 4 timeouts left (one being 2 minute warning)
Cincy is more inclined to pass which means either chunk yardage or incomplete to stop the clock. We can sell out and gamble knowing a quick score gets us a final possession. Hell, we can even give up a quick score if we feel momentum slip. Point being there are lots of options that give a decent shot to get the ball back.

I’m not saying it was the right call. I wish we went for it. But I’m not naive to realize that IF (and a very big if) we score a TD we all but guarantee that our defense would have to save the game with the bengals having a boatload of time left. That option isn’t ideal either. I’m just pointing out that it’s not so cut and dry to call this a dumb decision. Making our defense hold on the final possession sounds incredibly dangerous.. We were in a bad spot either way

He ****s the server every time!

Some kind of weird ritual thing where he starts the game thread behind the GB statue.

I'm confused why 3 minutes left with 4 timeouts would lead you to think that would make Cinci more inclined to pass. That makes backwards sense.

Exactly the case. Until someone on the DL can win one on ones, KC is not beating Cin. It's that simple.

Seems to me that Andy reverted to his old tried-and-lousy "play not to lose" mentality where he sits on a lead (or tie) and hopes the defense pulls through, thus guaranteeing a loss. He did this in Philly too. He just reverts to risk avoidance when he's not ahead.