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Buehler445 05-30-2023 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16963402)
People that wanna act like height is irrelevant on intermediate throws just don't understand how leverage works.

Murray's balls over the middle are going to have less snap on them because he's gotta go up and over the line with them. He has to lob balls in there or hope a clear lane opens between his lineman. Whereas a QB that's 4-5 inches taller can come downhill with the throw and drive the ball into windows that are small to begin with and closing incredibly quickly.

I mean folks are welcome to try to argue that he has smarts that will overcome these physical barriers, but to try to act as though the barriers just don't exist is folly. His height is absolutely a problem and his build will be an even bigger one should he ever get the idea that operating outside of the pocket is a good idea.
Which is why the loss of Hopkins is going to be straight catastroptic for Kyler.

His splits with/without Hopkins are absolutely absurd.

Chris Meck 06-03-2023 07:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16963437)
Which is why the loss of Hopkins is going to be straight catastroptic for Kyler.

His splits with/without Hopkins are absolutely absurd.
As are Watson's.

Both just chucked 50/50 balls to Hopkins who comes down with it more often than not.

Cleveland ****ed up so bad the NFL should force a change in ownership.

Buehler445 06-03-2023 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16968560)
As are Watson's.

Both just chucked 50/50 balls to Hopkins who comes down with it more often than not.

Cleveland ****ed up so bad the NFL should force a change in ownership.
Excellent point.

However I disagree in the change in ownership business.

The NFL should fine Watson for ****ing everything. Take that money give it to charity.

But no - don't bail those ****s out. Let these mother****ing twat waffles lay in the bed they made for themselves. In fact the NFL should start trolling these jackass cock gobblins. ****ing primetime games for these bitches. Have the draft there. So then the whole world can hear about the Watson deal and why they don't have any draft capital despite getting obliterated in the regular season and wasting the career of Myles Garrett.

If you're worried about the fans, **** give them ANOTHER franchise. ****ing do it. Let those pickle peekers be the Cleveland version of the Jets.

NFL should troll THE **** out of the Browns.

Bowser 06-03-2023 09:22 AM
That's pretty angry for a Saturday morning. LMAO

Definitely not wrong, though.

Buehler445 06-03-2023 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 16968621)
That's pretty angry for a Saturday morning. LMAO

Definitely not wrong, though.
ROFL

Fair.

But I'm good. It's raining!

MahomesMagic 06-04-2023 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 16953744)
Sadly I don't think Young or Stroud end up being very good, Young will show flashes of greatness but will miss games consistently. Stroud I think ends up having a Alex Smith/Jimmy G type of career where he's just a game manager.

Richardson to me is the only one that has any type of high end upside but he's just so very raw.
Richardson is QB 1 in this class because he landed correctly.

Pablo 06-04-2023 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kepp (Post 16953706)
Brutal comments: "That first clip of him taking a snap literally looked like a make a wish thing"
LOL. It looks like the starting frame of a BLACKED video they just forgot to put the little white girl in his place.

AdolfOliverBush 06-05-2023 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16960963)
Bryce is gonna ball. He’s a qb. What’s the concern with injury? Qbs don’t get hit anymore. Just be smart and he will be fine. He’s got low end Pat mahomes ability. Don’t sleep on Bryce.
WTF?

Mahomes isn't built like a WNBA point guard with a weak arm. There is zero similarity between the two.

Skyy God 06-05-2023 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16969581)
LOL. It looks like the starting frame of a BLACKED video they just forgot to put the little white girl in his place.
Piper Perri had more of a chance to survive repeated poundings.

Pitt Gorilla 06-05-2023 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16968560)
As are Watson's.

Both just chucked 50/50 balls to Hopkins who comes down with it more often than not.

Cleveland ****ed up so bad the NFL should force a change in ownership.
Who F'd up worse? Cleveland or Denver?

Pitt Gorilla 06-05-2023 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 16963402)
People that wanna act like height is irrelevant on intermediate throws just don't understand how leverage works.

Murray's balls over the middle are going to have less snap on them because he's gotta go up and over the line with them. He has to lob balls in there or hope a clear lane opens between his lineman. Whereas a QB that's 4-5 inches taller can come downhill with the throw and drive the ball into windows that are small to begin with and closing incredibly quickly.

I mean folks are welcome to try to argue that he has smarts that will overcome these physical barriers, but to try to act as though the barriers just don't exist is folly. His height is absolutely a problem and his build will be an even bigger one should he ever get the idea that operating outside of the pocket is a good idea.
Yeah, it's a HUGE difference. Being able to see over vs. only being able to see between is going to impact everything. Almost have to call more rollouts.

penguinz 06-06-2023 09:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16970894)
Who F'd up worse? Cleveland or Denver?
Cleveland and it isn't even close.

Chris Meck 06-06-2023 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 16970894)
Who F'd up worse? Cleveland or Denver?
Cleveland.

Russ is cringey as ****, but at least he's not a serial sexual assaulter that got paid a zillion dollars guaranteed.

I know lifelong Cleveland fans that have had to abandon the team they grew up loving because they can't root for the slimeball.

I can't imagine if that had been KC. I might have had to do the same.

Direckshun 06-07-2023 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 16972064)
Cleveland.

Russ is cringey as ****, but at least he's not a serial sexual assaulter that got paid a zillion dollars guaranteed.

I know lifelong Cleveland fans that have had to abandon the team they grew up loving because they can't root for the slimeball.

I can't imagine if that had been KC. I might have had to do the same.
Chiefs fans routinely packed Arrowhead with Tyreek Hill jerseys.

They’d have found a way to be fine with Deshaun Watson.

RealSNR 06-07-2023 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by kcbubb (Post 16960963)
Bryce is gonna ball. He’s a qb. What’s the concern with injury? Qbs don’t get hit anymore. Just be smart and he will be fine. He’s got low end Pat mahomes ability. Don’t sleep on Bryce.
It's fine because Drew Brees!

Drew Brees might be the most accurate QB the NFL has ever seen. That's why he can play as a midget.

Yes, midgets can still be productive and good, but they're not going to be franchise top 5 guys.


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